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Re: Math Nectar
by TG Team - Thursday, 21 June 2012, 09:59 AM
  Hi Mohit and Arsh smile
Both of you have given correct answers. Now solve this next one.

3. Hour hand of a clock is exactly at minute mark while minute hand is 6 minutes ahead of it. After some time it was observed that hour hand is again exactly at a minute mark while minute hand is exactly 7 minutes ahead of it. What is the time at the initial incidence?

Kamal Lohia
Re: Math Nectar
by Mohit Sharma - Friday, 22 June 2012, 12:49 PM
  Hi kamal sir,
My method to solve the question would be wrng and so be my ans.
I started with the difference between the two hands of the clock at a particular hour and then finally ended with the distance of 36 degree (6 mins) between them.
IF initial distance between them be 30 degree (i.e. time in clock be 1 hr) then the minute hand will have to cover a distance of 30+36 degrees. Only in this case will the two hands be at an exactly minute mark.
So initial time will be 1:12.

Kindly provide the right method to approach the question.
Re: Math Nectar
by TG Team - Tuesday, 26 June 2012, 10:23 AM
 

Hi Mohit smile

Your thought process is excellent and answer is also correct. Well done!!

Kamal Lohia

Re: Math Nectar
by TG Team - Tuesday, 26 June 2012, 10:43 AM
 

4. Find the length of a side of regular hexagon inscribed in a unit square.

Kamal Lohia

Re: Math Nectar
by Mohit Sharma - Tuesday, 26 June 2012, 12:29 PM
 
Hi kamal sir,
My solution for the prob is,
Let side of the regular hexagon be x.
Then AP=(1-x)/2
Since its a regular polygon its one vertex will be at the mid point of the side of the square by symmetry.
Therefore,
1/4+((1-x)/2)^2=x^2
x= (sqrt(28)-2)/6

Please correct me if i m wrng sir,
Thanks,
Re: Math Nectar
by TG Team - Tuesday, 26 June 2012, 01:09 PM
 

Hi Mohit smile

What you have constructed is an equilateral hexagon. But think, is it regular also? Before that reconsider, what is a regular polygon?

Kamal Lohia

Re: Math Nectar
by Mohit Sharma - Tuesday, 26 June 2012, 01:31 PM
  Hi sir,
In that case the ans should be 2-sqrt(2). The hexagon should be formed taking two opposite sides of the square.
Hope i m correct this time.
Thanks,
Re: Math Nectar
by Mohit Sharma - Tuesday, 26 June 2012, 09:15 PM
  Hi sir,
I got ur point. The ans will be 1/sqrt(3).
Hope this time i m not wrng.

Thanks,
Re: Math Nectar
by tgdel372 tg - Tuesday, 26 June 2012, 09:31 PM
 
Good evening, Sir
Referring to the figure
angle EFG=120
angle EFH=60
EH=1/2
=> EH/EF= sin 60
=> side of hexagon= 1/(sqrt(3))
smile

Re: Math Nectar
by arsh arora - Tuesday, 26 June 2012, 09:45 PM
 

hello sir,

if we anlyze dis problem then we are getting four 30-60-90 triangles on four peripherals so as we know 1:2:rt3 ratios we will end up wid 1/rt3 as the side of the hexagon but still am in dilemma as then i guess square would end it up as rectangle as one side would be unity and other would be 2/rt3.....pls throw some light

Re: Math Nectar
by TG Team - Wednesday, 4 July 2012, 07:33 AM
  5. From first 100 natural numbers, 10 numbers are removed randomly and then a number is selected from the remaining numbers. Find the probability that selected number is divisible by 5.

Kamal Lohia

Re: Math Nectar
by arsh arora - Wednesday, 4 July 2012, 08:32 PM
 

hello sir,

here in this question, am not gettng single unique answer as my answer depends on the numbers removed so thereby cases are generated as follows-

when all 10 nums removed are multiples of 5 then prob=10/90=1/9(as in 100 we have total 20 multiples of 5)

like this when all 10 nums removed are not multiple of 5 then prob=20/90= 2/9...these are the two cases i had mentioned ...there are other 9 cases more....kindly clarify!!!

Re: Math Nectar
by Parvesh Angrula - Thursday, 5 July 2012, 01:06 AM
  hello sir,
                     isnt this case is equivalent to just choosing a random number from first 100 natural numbers, so the probability should be 1/20. please let me know if my method is wrong.
Re: Math Nectar
by TG Team - Friday, 6 July 2012, 10:05 AM
 

Hi Parvesh smile

You are exactly right. Actually that keen insight is to be developed to solve problems. Good work. smile

Kamal Lohia

Re: Math Nectar
by TG Team - Friday, 6 July 2012, 10:15 AM
  6. What is the smallest number with exactly three odd divisors and nine even divisors?

Kamal Lohia

Re: Math Nectar
by rakshit surana - Friday, 6 July 2012, 10:27 AM
  Kamal sir, am not able to get the previous probability ques? plz guide
Re: Math Nectar
by Mohit Sharma - Friday, 6 July 2012, 11:41 AM
  hi sir,
The smallest no would be 60. coz the total no of factors 12. out of which one is 9 is even and 3 odd.
correct me if i m wrng.
Also please explain the last question sir.

Thanks,
Re: Math Nectar
by rakshit surana - Friday, 6 July 2012, 02:51 PM
  since, requirement is of smallest no. let us take 3 odd divisors as- 1,3,5 and even divisors as - 2 4 6, which when multiplied by the odd divisors will give 9 even divisors as 2*1, 2*3, 2*5, 4*1, 4*3, 4*5, 6*1, 6*3, 6*5
so we have 3 odd divisors 1, 3, 5
and 9 even divisors as 2,6,10,4,12,20,6,18,30
here we see, 30 is the highest no. but 4,12,18 and 20 are not its multiple..so the required number should be a multiple of 30..next highest number is 60...which serves are purpose
Re: Math Nectar
by rakshit surana - Friday, 6 July 2012, 09:34 PM
  i think i have made a mistake..60 has 4 odd divisors 1 3 5 15 sad
Re: Math Nectar
by Mohit Sharma - Saturday, 7 July 2012, 12:57 AM
  hello sir,
My ans before was incorrect. as the ans is 72. Since it has 3 odd factors, hence the no should contain an odd square number. The smallest of such no is. 9=3*3.
Total no of factors is =12
so the remaining factors should be even and should contain 2^3.
Hence the no is= 3^2*2^3=72

Thanks, approve approve
Re: Math Nectar
by Ishvara Aasi - Saturday, 7 July 2012, 07:08 PM
  Hello Sir,

The below is my approach.

the total number of factors will be 9 + 3 = 12

let the smallest number be A and can be written in the form of (2^a)*(3^b) and (a>b) to obtain smallest number

so the total number of factors will be (a+1)(b+1)
so 12 needs to be written in the above form which will give (4,3) & (6,2) & (12,1).

the groups(6,2) & (12,1) wont give 3 odd divisors as b will be either 1 or 0

so taking (3,4) then a= 3, b = 2
so the smallest number is (2^3)*(3^2) gives 72

Please let me know if the approach is wrong.
Re: Math Nectar
by arsh arora - Sunday, 8 July 2012, 06:52 PM
 

hello sir,

ans would be 72 as we know no. of factors needed is 12 so start with 2 and 3,let say 2^a *3^b is the required format of the number's factors,on listing all the combination of a and b as (a+1)*(b+1)=12,we will come to a conclusion ,the required a and b are 3 and 2 resp.thereby 2^3*3^2=72

regards,

Arsh Arora                         

 

Re: Math Nectar
by anila . - Monday, 9 July 2012, 06:32 AM
  6.for exactly 3 odd divisor
N=a^2 and a will be odd
smallest odd num =3
N=3^2 =9
divisors of 9 =1,3,9

for exactly 9 divisors
9 can be written as product of num in two ways
1*9,3*3 to find the smallest num we choose 3*3

N=a^2* b^2
for smallest value we take a=2 ,b=3
but in this case we get 3 odd factors also
(to find odd factors we remove 2^2
even factors = 9-3)


so instead we take N=a^3 * b^2
even fac= total factors - odd factors
12-3=9

Ans is 9 and 72
am i correct?