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Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 05:58 PM
  CAT 2009, CAT 2009 ExperiencesWe have removed our previous cat 2009 thread because so many of your had posted a lot of prohibited stuff- requests for CAT 2009 questions and emails. Since many of you had also posted your email ids, even after our repeated warnings, we decided not to expose you guys to any external scrutiny. In all this chaos you guys are forgetting that this exam was something you guys had put your heart and soul into all year round. Study and work hard rather than finding shortcuts to find a way to crack CAT. Do not play with your career, It's not worth it.

We are restarting the thread but please read the following disclaimer by Prometric before posting:

Disclaimers Regarding Conduct of CAT 2009:

Disclosing, publishing, reproducing, transmitting, storing, or facilitating transmission and storage of the contents of the CAT or any information therein in whole or part thereof in any form or by any means, verbal or written, electronically or mechanically for any purpose, shall be in violation of the Indian Contract Act, 1872 and/or the Copyright Act, 1957 and/or the Information Technology Act, 2000. Such actions and/or abetment thereof as aforementioned may constitute a cognizable offence punishable with imprisonment for a term up to three years and fine up to Rs. two lakhs. Candidates who want to appear for CAT have to agree to a Non-Disclosure Agreement at the time of the test.

 Computer based testing is a proven and reliable process that is administered to tens of millions of people each year. As with paper and pencil testing, or virtually every other human endeavor, a very small number of problems could occur that might prevent a test from being delivered and/or a result from being generated. In the unlikely event this does occur, every effort will be made to correct the problem, up to and including the administration of another test.

EDIT facility was provided to candidates on the registration website to edit their information submitted during the CAT registration window. Thereafter, the registration window and EDIT facility was extended by ten days. Now, one last time, during the period 23 November 2009 - 11 December 2009, re-edit facility has been provided to candidates who still have not filled-in some of the candidate information. E-mails and SMS have been sent to such candidates. If the candidates do not use this opportunity to fill-in the information, IIMs will not be responsible for candidates not getting short-listed for interviews due to lack of information.

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From hereon, we would not be responsible for any violation of rules on your part. Please feel free to share your overall CAT 2009 experience
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Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sachi bhat - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 06:03 PM
  Will the screen show number of attempts???
Wat abt the time on the screen..is it in hour minute format or minutes only??
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by vikas singh - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 06:03 PM
 

Hi Ma'am,

Aptly said "Study and work hard rather than finding shortcuts to find a way to crack CAT". There are no shortcuts for Success. To all the members of TG.com -All the Best for ur Exam. 

Thanks & Regards,

Vikas

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Vaibhav Gupta - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 06:30 PM
 

My experience was amazing. Never got the feeling that I was giving CAT - well that may be because I didn't give it. :D.. Anyways keep checking www.catiim.in for your centre.

Regards

Vaibhav

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Manvi Gupta` - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 06:52 PM
  yea..can anyone tell..abt what no. of questions should be attempted considering cut off seems to  be higher than the previous papers?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Bonhomie Fella - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 07:06 PM
  did anyone give the cat on the second day, did all the centers have been able to conduct the exams, does anyone know about the exams getting canceled at any place
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 07:20 PM
  I believe many of you must be wondering why we deleted a huge thread full of replies and discussion about CAT 2009. Here is the reason-

Today afternoon when I went to TathaGat to take my class, Kamal Lohia said to me "Do you want CAT to be canceled? If not, then we should not let students share information this way, otherwise CAT is sure to be cancelled."

This remark pinched a lot. Do I really want CAT 2009 to fail? And I realized that I do not. If at all, I have been very excited about CAT 2009 and I wanted this initiative of IIMs to succeed. I had always been proud of IIMs as 'My institutions.' Today, I found I was standing against them.

I called up Dagny and discussed it. And we opened a lot of other sites. Everywhere we could see, there were students deriding IIMs or Prometric, hurling abuses, and asking CAT 2009 to be relegated back to a paper-pencil test. Suddenly, we all had become monsters, trying to burn the IIMS. We also saw students trying to cadge information about the questions from others, trying to find the easy way out. Some of these students we had taught all year. We are teachers. We want to teach good things to our students. We want them to be strong. Seeing them so weak makes us ahsamed of ourselves. We do not want to be a party to this.

Yes CAT 2009 has issues. We have issues with the quality of papers, delievery of papers and what not. You all have issues. But we have known IIMs to sort out issues earlier also. During registration we had so many issues but they were sorted out. I expect IIMs would sort out the issues again. Also, there is one more stage of selection if you all remember- GD and PI. Validity of candidates can be checked there also.

I do not know about you all, but I do not want to deride an institution of my country. That too an institution I have always been proud of. And I do not want any of you to cheat. And I want CAT 2009 to succeed because I do not want my country still to be serving papers in stone-age manner.

Rest is up to you. God bless you all.

Total Gadha

 

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Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by mayank dixit - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 07:26 PM
 

Hi Tg do u fell just by deleteing the thread u can make this cat 2009 a success smile. wat i fell it would be better if iim people start the exam freshly.taking exam this way they are making fun of students.I am very much sure they have to crap this online test in coming 4-5 days.abhi to start hai ,Eveyone is waiting for the media to take this issue at highest level.

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Anil Kr Gupta - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 07:34 PM
  We truly agree to your point sir,, BUT what about people are getting unfair extra time.... ok exams are going well and everybody has to do his best but due to some unfair means of extra timing, one is getting chance to snatch  another person's seat.. its percentile that matter not percentage.... sad I will do my best but many are doing better than me due to extra time...Who will look after them...????
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Software Engineer - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 07:36 PM
  I was out of town today; came back at 5 pm; was very excited to read the experiences; logged in to the site; Yike! Gone where the thread? :O

I was wondering what could be the reason.


Not sure about the other things, but I completly respect Planet-A.

BoL to all CAT takers. smile May angle spinke star-dust on your success! smile

Ours Sincerely,
SE
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Jamal Mohideen - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 07:37 PM
  "Yes CAT 2009 has issues. We have issues with the quality of papers, delievery of papers and what not. You all have issues. But we have known IIMs to sort out issues earlier also. During registration we had so many issues but they were sorted out. I expect IIMs would sort out the issues again. Also, there is one more stage of selection if you all remember- GD and PI. Validity of candidates can be checked there also. "

Sort out issues now? That was application form stage when the issues were sorted out....
How can the same logic be applied to exam stage?
How can they find out who have cheated or not?
Ppl are proudly putting in forums that they just restarted their computers and got extra time and answered all questions. Mass cheating has happened.
Questions have repeated from the 2 different slots within the same day.
It gives an undue advantage for people who have friends taking up exams in different slots.
How did they not even test the software for simple glitches?
How will they compensate for ppl who have had travel plans and got their exams cancelled?
Nobody is trying to deride IIMs. They have not lived up to their expectations.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Gaurav Verma - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:09 PM
 

There  is no shortcut for hardwork..

So we should  remain focused and be sure that all basics remain  the way they hav 2 till our D day.

be cool minded these days .. smile

chillaxcool

 

Thank u Tg sir and Dagny mam for ur constant motivation and guidance ..

TG rocks.

 

all the best ...smile

 

gaurav

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by shivansh tyagi - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:12 PM
 

HI TG sir, i totally agree with you , but think it our way round , we students sitting in small towns, read all the stuffs about the glitches in xam, xtra time , mass cheating , cancellation....We devoted our whole year to CAT , nd after tht we xpect smthng frm IIMs. They r the premier ones, why hvnt they checkd the software nd facilites before handed...

Nd now nthng abt marking scheme nd negative marking...is this nt our right to have des basic infos.......More over if i sitting in here can get sm info abt the cat question arent students of big cites with large centre bases have undue advantage.......

its right to wrk hard , but to wrk hard in right enviorment is also right...

ALL THE BEST!!
by Rajarshi Guha - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:13 PM
  @Everyone..
Hey guys ..I know that this is a huge cause of concern and that many of us who are taking the CAT this year have a lot at stake.But please let us stop being negative and since we are all prepared for the worst,let us hope for the best now..Its all about keeping an open and a positive frame of mind..Lets hope the worst is behind us and look towards the future.All the Best to Everyone..smile..!!


Cheers
Rajarshi
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by dhruv gupta - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:14 PM
  Hi TG sir,

This is my first post in the time i have been actively using the TG.com
First, My heart felt thanks to you for helping me so much with this site. My Cat prep was based completely on TG's directions and guidance. Thanks so much.

Sir, I gave my Exam in the morning slot today and in our class there was also an issue of System Crashing down. However, i am not sure whether it was a deliberate attempt or not but it does effects the results in the end. In a examination like CAT, 15-20 mins extra time makes a lot of difference.

I was really disturbed after reading the 'shortcuts' my fellow students are taking. It is really really unfair for the sincere or less fortunate students.

I Request my fellow Cat-aspirants to avoid further misuse of such or any loop holes and give examination in the spirit as its suppose to be given. 

Dhruv
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Mandeep Singh - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:29 PM
 

Hi TG sir,

 

Where is RMO..?? and what is it regarding ??

Please let me know.

 

BR

Mandeep

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:34 PM
  Hi Mandeep,

RMO is Regional Math Olympiad. Here: http://totalgadha.com/rmo/

Dagny
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Badal Vishal - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:35 PM
  The pride of India - IIMs & CAT.

Its neither you nor us deriding the prestige of CAT.
I have not posted anything till now. But if this is the way they are going to judge the performances, it will be BLASPHEMY.
Any good plan can fail but if we are not willing to correct it then it becomes a problem. we have prepared days & months for CAT & after all this long term preparation - we feel as if our ships are foundering by unknown forces.
A fair judgement is what we all want - even if I get some extra time in paper and I score the required percentile, I will never forget how I cracked it.

There are several loop holes in conduction of CAT, to name a few -
* Repeated questions
* Few examinees getting surplus of 0.25/0.5 hrs in their paper
* Old CAT questions
* Some of us getting less time in the paper due system snags
*People discussing questions(This d not be a big problem, had the CAT panel  prepared on this front ) - Actually this can not be prevented, if they were not prepared, they should have planned it for next year.

Even the officials know  it but they are keeping mum.
This exam should get "cancelled".Not only because they are not able to conduct it properly but mainly because it will not show the real crux of CAT.
The end result will not be fair.
I plead the CAT authorities -
Atleast now, go by a well said thought -  "If the end is well, all is well"
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by vijay t - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:35 PM
  Took my CAT today. Went on smoothly. No glitches. Everything was on time and perfect. Paper had many easily solvable questions.

Good luck guys.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:40 PM
  Hi Vijay,

Without discussing the format of the paper, any tips regarding computer buttons or scratch paper or anything which might help?

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Vickram Asokan - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:40 PM
  Hi,

One of my pals is supposed to take the exam today on second slot. The center has been listed on the "Cancelled List" but not his 'Lab'. On inquiry with Prometric Call Centre, he was asked to appear for the exam in his designated lab in the specified centre at Lucknow.

While he reported on time as per Prometric guidelines, he was asked to wait for more than two hours. Then, they declared the EXAM is cancelled and asked everyone to leave.

Hoping that all our hardwork and preparation will not fail us. Lets leave the rest to God, what we can do best is to keep on studying and check with Prometric Call centre about our scheduled slot and Centre and show up at the requested time.

Worrying about others cheating or gaining unfair advantage will not help rather push your morale down and thus pull down your performance. Just leave everything to God and do what you can do best : PREPARE and RELAX. Just check out if the centre is not CANCELLED on the slot before your EXAM DAY and give your best shot at CAT in the best frame of mind.

Do you honestly think you can perform at your 100 % when your mind is pre-occupied with someone cheating or your computer crashes ???? Have a clear mind and give your BEST possible performance and leave the rest (worries) to the people at IIMs. They are not in some other world. They were the best managers amongst us. So, lets believe in them that they will do justice to the admission test and pick the right candidates.

If you have worked really hard and built a good personality, you shud not be worrying much about these things. It might be hard to keep your mouth shut when everyone is going 'GAGA' over what is unfolding. But, Silence is better than CHAOS.

Good luck everyone. Do well.
-Vickram.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by mm aa - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:41 PM
  Very True .. The CAT must get cancelled as it's not going the real way.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:42 PM
  Thanks for the post Vickram. It means a lot.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amita baheti - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:43 PM
  Hii..
I ll be taking CAT tomorrow second slot...
just a bit tensed abt technical probs..
any suggestions.. or any precautions u guys wanna advise me...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by HIMANSHU KHANDELWAL - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:43 PM
  hey can anybody tell me the broke up of the sections in todays test ..............
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amita baheti - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:47 PM
  N ya.. as i said i am taking cat tomorrow... i checked on the iimcat website.. my lab was closed today.. so how do i know abt its status for 2morrow...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:50 PM
  Hi Amita,

Just go with open mind. Relax for a day and take a break from all the forums until you take your test. If your lab would be closed, iim website would be updated regarding the same. I am sure they are as much concerned about conducting the test as you are about taking it. So, don't worry.

Good Lucksmile

Dagny

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amita baheti - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:51 PM
  Thanks a lot for the acknowledgement!smile..
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by s ram - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 08:58 PM
  hey all,

I just couldn't help posting these words from a Song from the movie New York.

Moderators, here is your chance to delete my post . na na na nana naa

"Yaaro jo khud pe ho yakeen
Toh zindagi haseen
Tujhe kat bulayega"


For everyone else,

All the best for the xam and forget about all the crap going around you.

As the saying goes,

Whatever happens, it happens for the good only

smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by vijay t - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:07 PM
  1. You cannot skip from one section to another. So people who have decided to attempt sections in order of their choice, please note that you will have to click as many nexts as the number of questions in each section.

2. There is a "Quit" button just next to the "Next" button. Be careful not to touch it.

3. "Review Incomplete" button will be really helpful. Once you finish one iteration of the paper, just click on that, it will take you to all the unattempted questions.

4. It may take some time to start the test. Once "Start exam" is clicked, it took as long as 15 mins for some to load. But the time will start clicking only after the first question appears.

5. Use the scratch paper judiciously. 4 sheets (8 leaves). No extra provided. No sharpeners provided. Ask for a new pencil when your pencil is worn out.

6. Please click on the "Tutorial" or "Begin test" only when asked. Some people clicked on the tutorial as soon as they took their system. It seems that all the machines will have to be rebooted if there is some amount of time difference between the different systems in the lab.

Lastly... I took my lunch around 1130 and reached the centre at 1. Had to be without food till 6. Please have something to eat till you reach the centre smile

 

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Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Manish Mandal - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:10 PM
  Hi...
Can someone please reply (who has already taken the exam)...
Does it take a lot of time to navigate from one ques to another...
I mean if I want to go from ques no: 5 to 10 using next button (5 times).. is it advisable..?? will it be a issue bcoz of the server ??

Also, sm1 reported that smtimes it takes a lot of time for the figures (related to quant area like geometry or DI problems) to laod while the timer keeps ticking... Is it true...???
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Manish Gupta - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:12 PM
 

Dear TG,

 

If you plz ask someone, who has taken exam to make dummy screen (look like orginal exam) and post here. it will be really resolve lots of doubt and very helpful to otheres

 

Thanks

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:14 PM
  Hi Vijay,

That was useful. smile Can you also answer Manish Mandal's question?

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by iim freak - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:19 PM
  hi amita

As heard from one of my friends who was supposed to take CAT today, there is a START button every Test taker is supposed to click so as to start the test. Within 1 min of clicking the START button u are supposed to enter a PASSCODE(which will be only with the Invigilator) failing which your computer will be auto-locked and the test may stand cancelled. The same happened with my friend. So, make sure that when you enter the START button, the Invigilator is available next to you to enter the requisite PASSCODE w/o any delay. Albeit, he will be alloted another slot to take the test. There were around 20 candidates who suffered from this delay at his center.

Adding to above it is advisable to ask the Invigilator regarding any doubts you may have while entering pre-requisite information, which we are suppose to provide before starting the test.

i hope it helps. May Justice prevail!

All the Best to all!


Best Regards
iim freak

 

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Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amita baheti - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:14 PM
  Hey hii..
even i would like to know what manish is asking... n thnks vinay 4 info... its really helpful..
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:15 PM
  Thanks a ton iim freak smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Vickram Asokan - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:15 PM
  Hi Amita,

Check with Prometric Call Centre through phone. The number is available on catiim.in website. The information is real-time. smile

It might change before you reach the centre or after you reach the centre... Guess Prometric Call centre is live and real-time in its true sense. Just a joke.

Pray well and everything will turn out good for you. All the best. Keep your cool...

-Vickram.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Mandeep Singh - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:16 PM
 

Thanks a lot Dagny ma'am.

 

BR

Mandeep

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:18 PM
  Finally, we have a healthy discussion. smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amita baheti - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:16 PM
  hey thnks... iim freak..
its really helpful..
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:17 PM
  s ram smile not going to delete your post smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Tarun agarwal - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:25 PM
 

Hello TG sir.

true sir.every word that you have written.tommorow if we get admission in IIMs or any other good institute,we could face ourself in mirror and say

"HARDWORK AND FAITH NEVER FAILS".

so guys lets not worry what the pattern is or for that matter what questions are.We will give our BEST.

tarun. 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by vijay t - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:26 PM
  Hi Manish,

It does not take a lot of time to navigate from one question to another. I navigated to and fro the entire 60 questions more than twice towards the end. There are no problems, as the questions are initially downloaded when you click on start.

There were no issues with the figures also. I didn have many figure based questions.

The screen is exactly the same as in the IIM demo, look wise. The buttons are

|Previous| |Mark| |Quit (End Test)| |Next| |Review|

Hope this helps!!!

 

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Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by iim freak - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:37 PM
  Thanks to all especially our TG sir and Dagny Ma'am to turn the air into a positive one. All this fiasco really took me away from the feel i used to have the whole year while preparing for CAT. But its back now and once again i feel like @home smile


Best Regards
iim freak
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:43 PM
  smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sachi bhat - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:46 PM
  so after clicking the radio button for answer/option..we have to press mark before moving to next question???
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by think tank - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 09:58 PM
  Sir  ,  i  certainly  aggre with  u....
The word   "IIMS"  ==========  REspect......
This is first time.....(online)  ... hota  hai.....
Only hard work....is  the Truth.......
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Khanjan Kotecha - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 10:00 PM
  Dear Vijay,
You can navigate from one section to other by using the review button..
Say You r on Q-1 and want to jump to Q-21 than just Click Review button and you will get the list of 60 (Review screen)
now Double click on Q-21 and there you go on Q-21..

 

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Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ankur sharma - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 10:03 PM
  now that's something like TG...Those posts were getting on my nerves..i was unable to decide to read them or not..to query something or not..would it be beneficial to know something beforehand through these posts or not?..now it seems fine and i can feel that TG spirit.. smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by vijay t - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 10:03 PM
  sachi,

You need not MARK a question before moving to the next question. This is just for tagging in case you want to revisit the question later.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dinesh Kumar - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 10:07 PM
  But what about mark button...??
  i mean do we need to mark every ans we select...or only marking radio button will make it acceptable to ans DATABASe..??

or only after marking the answered question it will be counted ..
 actully someone on last thread(which is deleted) post that only markd ans will be counted...??
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 10:08 PM
  Hi Dinesh,

Read Vijay's last reply.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by golu golu - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 10:25 PM
 

@ sachi bhai

no friend ! that's for "BOOKMARKING" a given question.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by charles M - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 10:28 PM
 

Based on feedback received from test takers, this is the compilation of FAQs. In addition to yesterdays list.

I request to go through this FAQs. Before posting any new query.

1 ) What was the type of questions covered in exam? ans- Based on the feedback received from the students who took the first CBT CAT, the initial impressions about CAT 2009 are as follows: As announced earlier by Prometric, the number of questions was 60 There were 3 sections as in previous CAT papers namely– Verbal, LR/DI and QA Number of questions in all three sections was 20. Most of the high performers in Mocks have reported attempting around 40 questions. Section wise attempting 13-15 qs in English, and about 12 ques each in quant and DI. Paper pattern was almost similar to previous CATs although the paper was a notch easier than CAT 2008 Many centres across India faced technical problems due to which some centres had to delay the exam and postpone it to a later date. While English was similar in difficulty level as last year, the RC passages were shorter. Quant was easier than the previous years’. DI section was a little time consuming.

2 ) what all is to be taken with us to the exam centre? ans - 1. Voucher (or Pay-in-slip ) 2. Admit Card (Print it from your mail a/c) 3. Photo ID as proof (License/ Voter ID etc) * NO pens, paper, watches etc. allowed * Cash/CC allowed

3 ) were there same number of questions in slot 2? ans - yes.... both the slots had 60 questions each.

4) What about final year student's affidavit? ans - affidavit typed as per the performa and duly signed by college principal will be sufficient.

5) Were questions jumbled? ans- questions were not jumbled. Though sections were not specified, there was a group of 20, 20 questions of all 3 sections .

6) Can we unmark the answer? How to review? ans- Answer once marked, can be changed any number of times.... To review, click on review button and then move todesired question by double clicking on the question number. You can switch from question 1 to question 55 directly, no issues in it.

7) what about negative marking? ans - Though no criteria was mentioned about the percentage of negative marking, no speculations should be made. Remember, prometric has earlier mentioned that there will be negative marking.Without assuming anything, it is suggested to perform equally well in all sections.

8 )Do they provide marks/scores after the completion of exam? No.

9) Is it all right to have emailconfirmatons@prometric.com with date of receiving on the top of it, as admit card? Yes. Its fine.

10) What are the stationary items provided to us? 1) 4 sheets of A4 size paper. No extra paper is provided. You can erase and use the same paper if you want.5 min 2) 2-HB pencil and eraser. Sharper is not provided. In case pencil is blunt they will replace it with well sharpened pencil

11) Do we need to give our prometric credentials(username/password) to get the Question paper loaded on screen? You do not need to give your prometric username password for the paper to be loaded on the screen. Do not login, it is there for centre login.

12) I don't remember my prometric user name and password?Is it required at the time ? You do not need your prometric user id or password.

13) Is it true that you are allowed to skip the 15 minutes tutorial and thus utilize the full time (2hrs 30 mins) for the test? No. The test is for 2 hr 15 min only + 15 min tutorial (optional)

14) Will the test be automatically submitted at the time? Yes. The test is automatically submitted once the time is over.

15) Can I mark options(or highlight in yellow colour) in DI or quant or verbal (not RC)in yellow colour ? It was given on catiim.in ? Yes. You can.

16) Can i attempt sections as i like or do i have to follow the order ? Yes. You can attempt the test in any order.

Source : Palaguy posted by daniket.

 

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Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by srini vaas - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 10:41 PM
 

@TG and Dagny - Thanks for getting the thread up. It makes a lot of sense now. :D

Thanks again

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Pallav Jain - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 10:51 PM
  A few clarifications :

-The marking scheme has not been disclosed anywhere, nor have they
given any information abt negative marking or differential marking
scheme. So assuming the Sample Qs which were uploaded at IIM-C website
a couple of days back (there the mrking scheme was +3, -1), it's good
assume that there wud be negative marking and not to attempt all the
questions.


pallav
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ritesh gupta - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 11:12 PM
  thanx a lot mr charles M......
i hav forgot my user id n pasword...
r u sure there is no need of it.....
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Vipul Patki - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 11:22 PM
 

Hi TG,

I hope I am objective enough in my reply to your post. At this point I must say that mere words can't convey enough the high regards that I have for you and Dagny.

I for one seriously believe CAT should be cancelled and a fresh paper-based test be conducted asap. It certainly wont be a case of regression. There are a number of reasons. Firstly, there appears to be a lack of thorough testing on the part of Prometric. And we certainly can't clear IIMs of their responsibilities. Finally, Prometric is just a vendor and it's the IIMs that are the face of CAT. There is a term in software called the User Acceptance Testing (UAT) carried out by the client before releasing it on Live. News just in says that Prometric is blaming this on a virus affecting the servers. I frankly refuse to believe it. The less said about it, the better. I believe the system will be much better next year simply because more time will be available for the testing.

The other important point is that it's not just any other exam. I know of my close friends who have quit their well-paying jobs or who have dared to confront and defy their PLs just for this one day, in the hope that their efforts throughout the year are justified. To see someone undeserving benifiting from so many loopholes has certainly shattered them. I am at loss to understand how the IIMs were unable to think of such commonplace scenarios. I am sure they know it much better than us about the infrastructure scenarios. Our IT infra is still in its infancy. Worse no state or city can boast of uniterrupted power supply. These and other factors make any online exam on such a large scale extremely risky.
About the deriding of these hallowed institutes, can we dare to look at it from another angle? The students who are abusing the IIMs had great hopes from the institution regarding the online format. Perhaps there was an unfair expectation from the IIMs to deliver what looked like a fairly straight-forward project. But was it really unfair? And was this derision unjustified? I, as a student, may not approve of some of the words, but definitely agree with the feelings those students wanted to convey. Imagine a student who has flown to India over the weekend just to take the CAT. He'll be livid over the cancellation or the sham that took place in the name of CAT. Not helping matters was the comment of CAT convenor when he said that CAT is a national asset. Frankly, the comment was preposterous. That too, before the exam. Also, we must rethink about the positions of IIMs in our psyche. Are they so hallowed and infallible?

I believe all is not lost yet. Conduct a paper-based test asap. GATE, IIT-JEE and other exams are still done in the traditional manner. As much I am proud of the institution, I am proud of India and I certainly dont want outsiders to comment about the procedures followed to admit students to one of the most prestigious institures of the world.

I have my exam on 1 Dec...So I am off to revise the  basics one last time....smile Requesting TG to please delete this post if any part of it is found offensive.

Regards,
Vipul

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by rohit dwivedi - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 11:24 PM
  Hi All,
got an info( very trivial ) from one of my friend , would like to share .
" If you go in REVIEW MODE then after reviewing dont press
the Done button, present on screen,otherwise paper will end
and get submit ".

 

If you think this post was useful, help others by sharing it with your friends!
Bookmark and Share
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sidharth Jayaraman - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 11:20 PM
  TG sir,

Last time i read your post i believe your test had been canceled and was to be rescheduled. Have you received any updates from prometric/IIM'S through mail or SMS?

My CAT exam was on the first day, at the janak puri centre (Delhi), 2nd slot, and i have had no mail yet from prometric rescheduling the exam.

This goes out to all those candidates who are to be rescheduled, have you received any message/mail from prometric/IIM'S?

Please do post anything useful, and TG sir loved your post, I had ben searching for some sanity in the deleted thread, thanks to restore sanctity of TG.

Thanks
Sid
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 11:32 PM
  Hi Vipul,

1) I also refuse to believe that this 'virus' thing is all hocus pocus. But I am sure IIMs know this too. I am sure Prometric will face the rap for this. Let it be.

2) You still do not know how many people (if any) have benefited from the 'loopholes.' Do not get excited by reading forums. One should concentrate on one's own performance. And if your friends have really worked hard, they should get in no?

3) IIMs are respected and hallowed because they are expected to do the right thing. Let's wait and see how they fare. They are doing this for the first time. Give them a chance.

4) Also think about students whose tests have gone well. And they are in much bigger number than those students who are supposed to be cheating. Why should these students be penalized by having a retest?

Your post is not offensive. smile But let's not fall into discussion. You stop reading the forums and go relax or prepare for your test. smile

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by charles M - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 11:26 PM
  Hi ritesh

Not necessary to remember your USER ID and PASSWORD
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 11:30 PM
  Hi Sidharth,

No intimation about rescheduling but I am not expecting it soon also. I am sure they would be busy stabilizing the tests scheduled presently. Hamara number uske baad aayega. Relax and enjoy. smile

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by " S " . - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 11:38 PM
  One question: what was the problem in paper based exam?
we all loved that...and everything was going normal.... see i am in coimbatore
 and will be flying to delhi to take the test, spending 10,000 Rs .if my exam gets cancelled , will they pay me back. moreover I cant take test on the next day as I have to fly back , to resume my job..does anyone has answer
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sidharth Jayaraman - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 11:46 PM
  Thank you TG sir,

About the Virus problem, i do remember that just before we were asked to leave our centre (Janakpuri New Delhi), a Norton Antivirus Pop up came up on all the screens in our lab with the message "Threat detected", I believe it was a "trojan" virus. So the Virus problem being flashed as "breaking news" in all the news channels seems to be real, though no further updates are being provided. Lets hope for the best, relax and as you said "apna number aayega".

Thanks
Sid
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 11:49 PM
  Hi S,

It is easy to handle numbers (although it may seem hilarious right now), calculate and display results in a computer-based test. If all goes well, maybe in 2- 3 years they can conduct the test all the year round.

Paper-based tests also have had their trouble. Remember the leaked CAT in 2003 or trouble with IIT JEE cutoffs last year?

Call Prometric before coming. That is all I can say about your flight plan. sad

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Pankaj Kumar - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 11:50 PM
  Hi, Can anybody tell how the highlighting the text facility works thr?

Thanks in advance
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by srini vaas - Sunday, 29 November 2009, 11:55 PM
 

@Pankaj - Frm what i understand all the RC questions are available on the same page. The highlighted part stays till one moves to the next page.

@all- please correct me if this info is incorrect.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ishan ishu - Monday, 30 November 2009, 12:03 AM
 

TG sir,

My frnd is having cat on 3rd and on 4th she will be leaving for US. What if her test gets cancelled? Will IIM provide any solution for this?

 

Regards,

Ishan

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Monday, 30 November 2009, 12:09 AM
  Hi Ishan,

Please ask your friend to either write a mail or call Prometric.

Dagny
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ishan ishu - Monday, 30 November 2009, 12:12 AM
 

Thanks Dagny...ill do that right away smile

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by shruti lohia - Monday, 30 November 2009, 12:27 AM
  Sir I am a final yr student and my exam is on 2nd... Can u pls provide details about the final year affidavit? Is it mandatory to bring that along?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Jim Braddock - Monday, 30 November 2009, 12:41 AM
 

Though I am quite busy as my end term is going to start from next week, I try to visit TG everyday if at all I could help you guys or how is your experience about CAT 09. But after going through the discussion thread (both the deleted one and this one), I couldn't resist myself to jump in the discussion.

First let me clear that you all (around 2.5 Lacs CAT09 aspirants) are in the same ship, if the standard of paper is below your expectations (I am not the right person to judge the standard on absolute scale), its same for you all. Its all about continuous relative performance (commonly known as percentiles).

Second, Its human nature which resist us from accepting change; we all are not exception of the same. We claim that we have world class management institutes in our country but still we don't want to match with premier B-Schools across the globe on some parameters like admission process, diversified students profiles. (In a lighter vein, once a professor from a renowned B - School asked a professor of another renowned B-School, "How is the diversity in this years batch?" The another professor smiled and replied, "We have got all types of diversified engineers in our new batch. smile")

I think we should welcome if not appreciate the effort that CAT can also be conducted like GMAT. And those who are from Computer background could understand its not very easy task to make robust and scalable network and server to accommodate simultaneous access with so many different servers.

Regarding the standard of questions or repetition of questions, THOU shall not doubt on the management of IIMs. They are among the best and knows what competencies/skills they are looking for in the budding managers of the country.

Last but not the least, just clear the aptitude test and you'll get to know what they are looking in you!

Well I don't have any offence against anyone or intention to belittle anyone, however if it hurts anyone, please accept my sincere apologies.

Anyways good luck! smile

Regards,

Jim

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Monday, 30 November 2009, 12:49 AM
  Hi Jim,

Thank you for the post. Infact,  we were ourselves discussing that if the paper is easy, it is easy for all. The students are yet to clear the next stage, which is expected to be tougher after all this. The process would take a little time in become a complete success and I guess we must support that. We would want CAT 2009 to be successful and would try as much to keep Tgites  in their positive frame of mind.

By the way, do start writing IIMB under 'Jim Braddock'. smile

Dagny
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by NAHUSH PHADKE - Monday, 30 November 2009, 12:39 AM
 

Thanks TG sir and dagny mam for all your support mentally keeping the moral high and giving us all your valued guidance.i am having my cat on 3rd dec. and hope all goes well.keeping my fingers crossed.sir can u tell me wat to revise in the remaining days as i am confident about quant and di section but praying to clear cutoff in english section.wat could be srategy for english section to approach and as it is clear it. From some previous posts here there will be 60 qs in all the slots with 20 qs in each section.

           as from my past experience of copycats i am always left with atmost 35 to 40 mins for english section .As i always take it as last section and at this time i cannot change my strategy.so should i attempt RC first or VA first in english section.

sir please help me.please answer my query.thank you.

                                                                      regards

                                                                       NAHUSH

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by teki kala - Monday, 30 November 2009, 12:42 AM
  They say 'Donkeys just don't die'......

So here we are THE Scary 'T-Guys' having fun on the run.

Riding on the sunshine each shall pride the glory in the CAT '09, history has its storytellers..... to all those who are yet to appear for IT, I would say just raise your hand & point the finger up towards the sky and you shall strike THE LIGHTENING, coz that's how we do IT in TG Town !!

Thot By,
TGuy
Romance Begins here.... smile

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by NAHUSH PHADKE - Monday, 30 November 2009, 12:43 AM
  and also wat shud be the ideal no. of attempts to sail successfully in english section.pleaseeeeee
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Monday, 30 November 2009, 12:45 AM
  Hi Nahush,

Just read some novels and chill out in next few days. Keep a light revision schedule.

Regarding strategy, use your judgement to check which portion is easier- EU or RC. And then proceed.

Good Luck. smile

Dagny
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Monday, 30 November 2009, 12:48 AM
  "I would say just raise your hand & point the finger up towards the sky and you shall strike THE LIGHTENING, coz that's how we do IT in TG Town !!"
 
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Jim Braddock - Monday, 30 November 2009, 12:50 AM
  Thanks Dagny ma'm for your kind words. Actually its the commitment, dedication and above all the love for all the TGites from the Gadha Familiy (Specially TG Sir & You) which make me visit this wonderful site even now.

Simply TG rocks!

And yes, you are very correct. I'll take care of my signature from next time (err...from this time).

Thanks again for your affection to us. smile

Regards,
Jim
IIMB - The place to "B"
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by deep sin - Monday, 30 November 2009, 01:13 AM
  i had a a word with my friend who gave CAT ... according to him paper was super kool ... he attempted 57 question and he was not preparing seriously for CAT or any other exam.

He left just 3 question in quant because he cannot remember some geometry formula smile

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by New Donky don - Monday, 30 November 2009, 01:18 AM
  hi frens !!!  after reading this whole thread i wanna say smthng to those guys who r asking unnecessary questions  like how to start test by entering voucher id or smthng prometric id & how to review, is that necessary to mark a question or unmark if marked... i mean dis is ol nonsense. u guys r educated afetr ol u r goin 2 appear for toughest management xam of india may b world also. yaar dis ol info nd cat tutorial are available almost on evry cat related sites.... nd also u vl hv a tutorial of 15 mins b4 xam.. so don wry
ask smthng which hv a bit importnce.

new donky
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by nimish vikas - Monday, 30 November 2009, 02:35 AM
  thanks for the thread... it's quite informative.
kindly let me know regarding these:
1. i have seen a screen shot of the review page (on catiim.in). it has an end button on the left bottom corner. is this button to exit the review page and go back to the questions' screen or to exit the test?
2. if by mistake one presses the quit or exit button, is a confirmation asked or the test ends?

i wonder why tg is so defensive about iim! i dont think its justified...
i agree that we all should be calm an give the exam our best shot.
but surrendering to injustice is not my way, i will keep on writing to them until i m am assured of justice, or they should accept that this year their selection might not be just.

i hope they come out with a sound solution...
i would also request all of you who are yet to attempt, to give the exam in its spirit.., do not try any mischiefs (if not for yourself then for others), ...
i think CAT has let us down, but we are the ones who can help to conduct the remaining phase smoothly, and who knows, that by helping CAT we might be helping ourselves...( we have new papers...our paper are not cancelled...they find a sound solution for the initial phase and only some of those aspirants have retest!!) thoughtful

satyamev jayate

thoughtful
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Monday, 30 November 2009, 05:31 AM
  tg sir, general enquiry:
in data sufficiency questions or any general quants questions,
if two variables "a" and "b" are given and nothing is mentioned about them being or not being distinct. should we take them as to be distinct or non-distinct (same and equal)?

smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by siva kota - Monday, 30 November 2009, 07:24 AM
  hi guys,
i m weak in time and distance and wrk. can anyone help me in dis section?
how many ques can we xpect through dis topic?
can u xplain d above prob's too?
i think 1st ans is cannot b determined....
2nd is based upon relative speeds..
am i right?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by iim freak - Monday, 30 November 2009, 08:46 AM
 

hi Siva

I would suggest you to leave this topic as of now, if you not comfortable with it, and concentrate on your strengths. If you done with all your strengths and still have atleast 2 days for your CAT then you can just have a look at few of the TSD Qs which have come in the previous yrs. i think that should suffice.

i said 2 days as you should keep atleast one day for just relaxing.

 

Best Regards

iim freak

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Jayesh Parmar - Monday, 30 November 2009, 10:15 AM
  Hi TG,

Reading this post made my day. After hearing this all GAGA in last tow days i decided to take test in a true and honest spirit irrespective of people using unfair mean. I will be happy this way whatever be the result.

Good to see like mind people here.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by harshil singhal - Monday, 30 November 2009, 11:28 AM
  True .. you can highlight parts of the passage you want. You can also highlight more than one groups if you wish to. To undo the highlight you need to click on the highlighted section.
Gave CAT on the 29th. Overall experience was good, but then again I feel this has got more to do with the infrastructure and facilities at the place you are giving the test rather than anyone else.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Mohit Singhal - Monday, 30 November 2009, 11:30 AM
  @ nimish
1. Do not press the end button as it will end your test. to go back double click on any question.

2. i dont know about the quit button but if you press end button it asks " are you sure you want to end."
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ankit did - Monday, 30 November 2009, 11:51 AM
 

Hi All,

Have read a lot in past two days about the CAT fiasco and dont feel like reading any more stuff regarding these.We have all worked hard for the CAT exam and hard work does pay rich dividend's. So we should not worry about this any more. The CAT and Prometric had a huge task of conducting these tests successfully so there are definitely going to be some problems.Remember you can never learn walking untill and unless u have fallen for a few times.It goes the same way. Just appreciate the IIM's for there herculean task management and give CAT your best shot.From these forums try to grab the motivation from TG sir and Dagny mam. Thank you Sir and Mam. ALL the Best to others.

Ankit

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Monday, 30 November 2009, 01:02 PM
 

TG Sir / Dagny Madam,

It is good that we have very valuable info regarding the test environment.

But I dont want to spend much time on reading these forum replies. So please accumulate all points at a single place ( if needed create a new thread and restrict people from giving comments). So that we can easily go through those before the exam.

Hope this is a valid request.

-Sreeni

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Jayesh Parmar - Monday, 30 November 2009, 02:06 PM
  Good Suggestion from Sreeni...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by elegant elegant - Monday, 30 November 2009, 02:13 PM
  Could anyone please tell is there any highlighting by yellow colour? I saw in some post about it.
Thanks.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by elegant elegant - Monday, 30 November 2009, 02:12 PM
  smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sachi bhat - Monday, 30 November 2009, 02:23 PM
  Looks like today was the best day compared to previous 2 days smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Jayesh Parmar - Monday, 30 November 2009, 02:23 PM
  Small suggestion,

Can we have ten thread. One for each day experience. It will make life simpler for all.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dignified Madness - Monday, 30 November 2009, 02:29 PM
  u can but u may not
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Shashank Shekhar - Monday, 30 November 2009, 02:30 PM
  Hi,
I don't know why certain people here are trying to defend IIMs and CAT. This may be the first time they are conducting a test online but that in no way justifies the utter failure the test seems to have become. Everyone seems to have conveniently forgotten that at the end of the day we are paying to take the exam. We are the end customers. I work for a software firm... If my firm develops a software that has so many glitches my client will kill me.. It'll be akin to a death knell for all future projects from the client... But since here the 'customer' happens to be an aspiring student who has no other option than to take the test in whatever way possible year after year, IIMs seem to consider this a 'success'. What a shame..or should I say what a sham....
Anywyas, I am not really worried....just annoyed...remember guys..
'karm karo, fal ki chinta mat karo'....
All the best to everyone....
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Monday, 30 November 2009, 02:54 PM
  Hi Shashank,

You are assuming too many things here. First is that IIMs are doing nothing about it. Second, that they do not care if you have to take test in whatever way possible. Third, that your clients will kill you and that IIMs will say nothing to Prometric. Fourth, I do not see the "utter failure that test has become." All the students at TathaGat who have taken the test have had no problem whatsoever and there are more number of students who have taken the test than those whose test have been rescheduled.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Monday, 30 November 2009, 03:48 PM
  i am sorry, i didn't know that tg doesn't allow links to other MBA sites smile
since it was a site link that would help someone who has already taken the test and has had difficulty hence i posted the link and nitin kumar did too post the same link. i dont think both he and i meant any harm. its just that people who think that the test isn't fair should have the right to speak. no one in his right mind can be uncomfortable with the present status of the test :|

i will not post anything else in the future. i never said " i wanted to complain". i just presented the thread because it gives you the right to if you want. sometimes in life standing up is important smile
thank you for all your guided help : )



Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Monday, 30 November 2009, 03:27 PM
  Hi Kamonashish,

I believe you know we do not allow links on TG. Not only that, I believe you can send a mail directly to Prometric if you have any complaint (what complain do YOU have by the way? Have you taken the test?). Third, and I sincerely mean it, this thing is getting blown too much out of proportion. Why are you and so many others not studying and trying to concentrate on your exams in place of jumping from forums to forums, getting inflamed by everyone who has an opinion, and trying to complaint against something you have no idea about?
Let me give you the numbers-
  • CAT had problems only on the first day, the second day many tests were cancelled but the centers where it happened had no problems. So I am talking about one day out of 10, and in that one day most of the students wrote the exam (Dignified Madness, don't know why you hold a grudge against IIMs but you also wrote the test).
  • Those who had problems, out of that most of them got rescheduled.
  • I am seeing two or three posts on the forums saying they got extra time. I do not know if it's true (as the tutorial and the test had different timers, and even if you skip the tutorial the test timer was for 2:15 hr) and I certainly do not know if those guys are benefitting from it.
So you tell me what is it that you are complaining against unless ofcourse you want the test to be scrapped because you are not comfortable with it.

Total Gadha

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kuldeep patel - Monday, 30 November 2009, 03:41 PM
  TG sir
U are perfectly right .. I have seen one funniest thing in this thread...
I was active member of ur CBT club and there were few members who were very active at that time.. By i can not see any of them in this thread... Only new faces are writing here and creating unnecessary panic and spreading rumors...

Kuldeep
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Monday, 30 November 2009, 03:47 PM
 

TG sir

You are perfectly right ..... obviously Kuldeep also.

By the way , any steps towards my request ?

I have one question :

In the Demo, I could see that REVIEW button available throughout the exam right ? But from the above content, I went through somewhere saying need to click next multiple times to go to the next section ... is it so?

If you have any info just drop sir.. I will catch.

-Sreeni

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Monday, 30 November 2009, 03:47 PM
  Hi Kuldeep,

They are busy studying or preparing for their test. smile

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by TG Team - Monday, 30 November 2009, 03:50 PM
 

Sreenismile

Sorry to interrupt.

There is Review button on your screen always. And you can easily jump from any question to any question through that button.

It is ridiculous that you need to press 'Next' multiple times.

Hope it makes life easier.smile

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sudhir kumar - Monday, 30 November 2009, 03:59 PM
 

Hello..

I wrote my exam today morning in pune and exam and had no problems.

Two students had some problem while logging in,but when rebooted it was fine.No issues in the middle of the exam.

one thing i observed is, suppose i marked one question and moved forward and then if i press previous button it showed me the last unanswered question or marked question.I had to go to review and then choose review completed.

one more thing is,we are asked not to use review finish button.for this mistake they said  prometric wont be responsible.use review complete or incomplete buttons.

TG,can we atleast know abt the no of attempts made and wt scores are expected to be cut-offs..it will help us get some idea as the results are too late...

 

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by mayank gupta - Monday, 30 November 2009, 04:00 PM
  hi....
actually tgis is my first post. i am also having many apprehensions regarding the on going pandemonium but...
as u have mentioned about d final year student's affidavit i am pretty shocked as i am oblivious abot any such document dat has 2 b prepared....so plz throw some light on it....
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sunil garg - Monday, 30 November 2009, 04:01 PM
  hi TG /friends
few days back i got a mail from prometrics that your exam centre has been relocated.
when as per their instructions i visited the site and click "resend the admit card"
i got the same admit card in every respect
even in centre change parent mail they informed me the same earlier centre.
should i call them
n what is the contact number
the number 1-800-103-9293 need to be direct dial or i wold have to add some std code
please help
Regards
Sunil
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by himanshu mishra - Monday, 30 November 2009, 04:14 PM
  hi friends,
we are really emotional fellows.just like when indian team winning we start see everyplayer is god and when india defeated we blast to indian team and everything.like this we are just over reactive which is going through iim online test.see friends this prometric company which is conducting GRE,GMAT,LINUX,HP TYPE EXAM they arenot reallly out of idea of this type of heavy load of exam.they should be given chance.iim should go online.because it is intrest of INDIA AND FOR INSTITUTION AND FOR ENVIRONMENT.IT IS REALY GOOD STEP.but we have to bear when something newly started it is not proper to be emotional just crying for nothing.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sandip Sahoo - Monday, 30 November 2009, 04:54 PM
  Today at  6 PM IIM directors have a meeting regarding the CAT issues.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Ravi Ungarala - Monday, 30 November 2009, 05:06 PM
  @himanshu

You are right. But this things can be avoidable if they follow a proper software delivery model. All this things are already addressed in this models which many of the IT firms are practicing it world-wide(CMM Level 5 smile). At last what matters to everyone is fair exam process smile . 10 years down the line you should not feel that had the systems worked better on that d-day I might have been a graduate from IIM smile

Regards,
Ravi Teja
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sunil garg - Monday, 30 November 2009, 05:25 PM
  hi TG /friends
few days back i got a mail from prometrics that your exam centre has been relocated.
when as per their instructions i visited the site and click "resend the admit card"
i got the same admit card in every respect
even in centre change parent mail they informed me the same earlier centre.
should i call them
n what is the contact number
the number 1-800-103-9293 need to be direct dial or i wold have to add some std code
please help
Regards
Sunil
PLEASE REPLY!!!!!
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by harshil singhal - Monday, 30 November 2009, 05:30 PM
  guess you have to dial it as it is ... problem i faced while trying to contact them was - from 9 to 5 on working days its busy continuously, apart from that you just get the IVRS which tells you to call later ...

i could be wrong ... please correct me if i am ... i also need to call them up as i haven't received any mail from them even after the ' 2 working days ' that they claim to take to give out responses ...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by diptadeep banerjee - Monday, 30 November 2009, 06:34 PM
 

TG Sir,

I have visited this wonderful site for inputs on an off and never had a chance to disagree with anything anyone says here... least of all, you! Today however i would like to vehemently disagree.

It is not to derire the IIM that people are protesting. This fiasco has been an example of classic gross mismanagement on the part of some of the best management schools we have. Apart from all the mass cheating, etc that we are hearing of, the IIMs are making a joke out of themselves and also in the process playing with the lives and careers of aspiring students. sad

Have attached the mail that I had sent to to IIM-A to prove my point (well, some of it atleast!)

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Monday, 30 November 2009, 07:42 PM
  Hi Diptadeep,

I seriously doubt if any of you have read my post carefully. I am all in for protesting but I am not in for abuses or crass behavior I am seeing in the forums. I said in my post that IIMs will take care of the issue. Last I heard the IIM directors are having a meeting. So I guess they are not ignoring anything. There is no necessity for the kind of behavior I am seeing everywhere.

The basic principle is simple- Do you people desire IIMs or not? If you do then have faith in their system. They are not denying that they had major issues with their test. All I am saying is that they will take care of it. If you do not believe that they will take care of it, why dream about IIMs at all? Say they are rubbish schools and leave it at that. If you DO desire IIMs give them chance to clean up their system.

If tomorrow IIMs come up with a good solution each one of you would be happy and would forget how you posted abusive words against them in forums. For example, if they come out with a decision to scrap the test or ask everyone who took the test on the first or second day to have a retest wouldn't this fix the issue? All of you would be happy, no? And your faith would come back right? And you would forget that you talked about "gross mismanagement," or "CAT is a failure." This is hypocrisy. Another hypocrisy is institutes who prepare for CAT and whose whole business depends on CAT making fun of CAT and IIMs. Today they can hurl stones because it is not THEM who is trying something new. IIMs are. And when IIMs clean up their act, the institutes would again be praising them.

Why not have faith? IIM directors are having a meeting. Let them take a decision on this. Why don't you people want computer-based CAT to succeed? There might come a day when you can get your score instantly after taking the test. There are so many other things which would become simple.

And more than this, shouldn't all of you students be studying? Why are you people getting frenetic about this? Let students who have taken the test send emails or protest against IIMs. I am seeing students who have yet not taken the test going gungho over IIM Bashing.

And IIMs are NOT making a joke of you or playing with your lives. They are as serious about sanctity of their paper as you students are.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kanika arora - Monday, 30 November 2009, 07:43 PM
  hi frens & TG sir !!
can ny one help me i am very tensed about my center as its quite far from my palace and i have searched google many times to get location & direction but its not showing the satisfactory results. can any one help me in this matter like how to get there from dhulan kuan.
my center is
dronacharya college of engg. farrukh nagar gurgaon
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Ace Mccloud - Monday, 30 November 2009, 07:54 PM
  For those of you who are interested in making their grievances heard by the top notch people here is one solution :-

Letter Petitions to Supreme Court of India -

PROS :-
1. It costs nothing.
2. If SC deems fit and if innumerable petitions are received by SC then "suo moto" action might be taken by them.
3. More effective than waiting for CAT 09, IIMs and Prometric and GOD to get all things right.

CONS:-
1. The Limelight

Following are the links :-

http://www.supremecourtofindia.nic.in/pilguidelines.pdf
http://www.articlesbase.com/national,-state,-local-articles/letter-petitions-to-supreme-court-1300563.html
http://www.supremecourtofindia.nic.in/HBPAPSCOI/7.html


So those of you who are asking and trying to push others after having faced CAT 09 troubles can do so individually. They can raise their grievances individually ...

TG/Dagny - Please let me know if I have posted anything wrong ...
All I know is that those of us who are hurling abuses on CAT and mourning about their lost opportunity can utilize their anger in a more productive way. Venting anger/abuses in forums will lead to nothing. This might.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dipak Haridas - Monday, 30 November 2009, 07:55 PM
  sir,
let's consider , IIM's consider same difficulty level for all d papers
how much should b ideal attempt, section wise (in percentage terms), especially when exact negative marking  is not known and what around will b the cutoffs  ?

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by CATendra 2009 - Monday, 30 November 2009, 08:17 PM
  Hi TG Sir,
I appeared for the test today.I had an unforgettable experience.The test was going along very well.When 42 mins were remaining in the test and i was in full flow after having solved 5 questions in less than 12 mins, my system hanged.The exam assistant came and restarted my system.After entering the login/passwd again, the timer showed 39 mins. I was feeling miserable. Those 3 mins of test time were lost while my system lay hung in the middle.But more than those 3 mins, what i lost was the continuity.My mind was all over the place by then.It took me around 10 mins to solve the next 2 questions.I did not regain the same comfort level again.

I have only one question to ask here.WHY ME??

catendra...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by abm . - Monday, 30 November 2009, 08:23 PM
  sir/mam,
this is my 1 post.i have been using tg since last 5 months and found it very helpful and most on recent days when other forums were almost inactive.
i will be giving my exam tomorrow morning slot. i had just 1 thing to say to those who will be giving tomorrow and after that.
just believe in yourself.
we will have enough time to mourn about the cat(if it happens so) after 7th.
don't ruin your chances whining about it beforehand.

regards,
ABM..
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ced rik - Monday, 30 November 2009, 08:24 PM
  Folks, I gave the exam today in Mumbai and let me tell you - it was as smooth as a baby's bottom. Nobody at the center had any issues.

Most of the things people are posting around on forums can be wrong or misleading. One golden piece of information I got on this site a couple of days back, which put me under immense stress, which finally turned out to be completely false is that they don't give sharpeners at the site. They do! Yes people it's true, I swear on it. You can totally relax.

Good luck to all of you.

Ced
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Ching Lee - Monday, 30 November 2009, 08:27 PM
 

Hi All,

I have given the exam today - 2nd slot. Anyone else from the same slot, if interested in discussing a few questions, please add me(id - amanarora.dce) on gtalk.

Thanks.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Monday, 30 November 2009, 08:28 PM
  Hi CATendra,

Write to IIM A ad com?

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Kunal Parekh - Monday, 30 November 2009, 08:34 PM
 

Thanx Cedrick...........

I was looking for someody who will share their experience in this ervor problem because my appointment is tomorrow morning slot at Bhyculla(Saboo Sidik Clg)....and after seeing the list of all the mumbai centres in IIM's yesterday list for the exams could not held because of this issue....

Kunal

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by avijit mohapatra - Monday, 30 November 2009, 08:45 PM
  Hi all
I was going through the posts for all the while and was restraining myself from commenting on this post.
I agree many aspirants have been wronged by what has happened and I can realize how it feels when your year long efforts go in vain. But donna worry. I strongly believe that IIM management shall take care of the same.
BEST OF LUCK
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Anirudh Agrawal - Monday, 30 November 2009, 08:49 PM
 

Sir,

An honest confession. A classmate of mine had given the exam today.  I was planning to call her up and ask the questions..but after reading your post I'm a bit ashamed for thinking like that. I would not be looking for questions that have appeared till now. I promise.

Anirudh

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Kishore BV - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:07 PM
 

I agree everything with what TG has mentioned here,but I have a few POINTS to make.Whenever things go wrong in cases like these it is natural that people take stands.

All human beings are not born the same and everyone does have his/her own reactions.

I know a friend who took leave on Saturday to take the test and things went wrong.He is now really worried if his boss  allows him another leave(for the sake of appearing again).

CAT is conducted all over the country only in capital cities.Large no.of people from several places plan their journey,accomodation etc.They shouldnot be troubled at any cost but they were.Who is going to pay for their multiple trips,time wasted(probably invested)?

What TG said is right.They are trying something new.But I am sure that they shouldnot have troubled the aspirants.They should have had a better plan right from the beginning.

We are not here to blame anyone,but....This is not expected from IIMs and IIMs trying to correct their own mistake is no great issue. 

We welcome any change only if it troubles us  in the right way.

Regards

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:07 PM
  Hi Avijit,

We we have faith in the system. I am sure IIMs are equally worried about getting things in place. smile

And we are proud that students from IIMs such as you and Jim are taking out time to reply here.

Dagny
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by raj arora - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:57 PM
  hey buddies heard dat they dont allow to go washroom means
moning 8 am to 12 30 without washroom nd water? is it true ?
plz reply me asap sad i hv stone prob. sad

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:25 PM
  Hi Kishore,

No one is denying that IIMs are not at fault. When they are dealing with such a audience a lot of things should have been taken care of. For students it is easier to go on writing one complaints after the other. But not a single one among the hundreds of students is ready to volunteer and try to lend a helping hand to them. People who took the test and had problems still have the right to complain but what about the people who have not yet taken the test and they are complaining just because everyone else is. Shouldn't they be studying?  CAT would still take place and all these people who are wasting their time now would be crying writing about their bad experiences later on. They themselves would be blamed for their lack of performance.

It's okay man! Things so wrong. And if you are worried, the other side is also worried. Regarding your friend, if he gets through an IIM he would be minting money once he passes out from there. Not only that he will get the best two years of his life to live. He has to decide what his priority is. You yourself must lend him some positive support and not add to his already negative thought line.

If you have not taken the test, get back to your studies. That will help you more than worrying about what IIMs are going to do. Your do your job and let them worry about theirs. CAT will sooner or later take place no matter what. So why waste your precious time?

Don't worry and have faith. All would be well. smile

Dagny

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:23 PM
  Anirudh,

Win with pride. What is the point of living with a regret in your heart all your life? Isn't it? smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by think tank - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:29 PM
 

‘CAT will continue to be online next year’ – IIMA Director  "Happy"

Sir this is  their first change....  hota hai......
 Hame DUNIYa k sath chalana Hoga......Frinds,,,,.....
Best luck....
 
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:26 PM
  Somebody Please help Kanika to locate her center in Delhi?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Panks Nan - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:28 PM
 

Hi Kanika,

its on Pataudi road ..on outskirt of gurgaon, appox 25 km from gurgaon. BTW, road too are not good..so plan your time accordingly. Let me know if you require any further info on directions.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Anirudh Agrawal - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:28 PM
  That's true ma'am..thanks to you and sir..you've always been there for us..
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ritika bajaj - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:34 PM
  Hi all,

After going through all the discussion here (and in the deleted thread as well) i just could not stop myself to jump into it.

My exam is on 3rd of dec. and trust me I'm least worried about whatever is happening around with CAT and IIMS. I'm not saying that it can not happen to me but why to think right now for it when there would be no outcome until i go into it practically. if it happens to me, then i have the right to cry and burn myself in the flames of "Mismanagement of IIMS" and all stuff. I'm feeling sad about the people who are actively participating in it and moreover giving their reviews without even facing it. all of us have spent our 1 IMPORTANT YEAR to get ready for this day wholeheartedly and now when the time is here, knocking the doors of our destiny, we are indulging ourselves into some other stupid bitchy acts. Shame on us!. Guys we are kids and lets be that only. Lets not try to become parents of our own and act maturely when people who are actually there to take care of all this stuff. I think IIM and Prometric people are more worried about whatever is happening to us. we are just thinking about "our" future, but they have the future of 3lac people in their hands, so why would they be playing with a huge number?.

Why TG and Dagny deleted the previous thread?. ACT maturely here (where your are required to).

They both have helped us all the year round just for this day ( may god bless them both).Think about their feelings and emotions and just CONCENTRATE ON YOUR STUDIES (if not for yourself then at least for them).

Let IIMs be cursed by those who were unable to give their test on the desired day.

All the very best to you all

take care

god bless you

Ritika
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kanika arora - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:36 PM
  hey thanks panks !! for the info but i got to know that its around 70 km from dhaula kuan & if u have a bad luck & ur tyre get punctured u vl not get any nthng for kms. so can ny one tell me is it safe to drive alone if not then what r d other options to get there safly & ofcourse on time


regards
kanika
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:40 PM
  IIM Indore CAT 2009 Important update

IIMs regret the inconvenience caused to all candidates taking CAT 2009. Due to technical problems chiefly arising out of virus attacks, we have not been able to administer the examinations as planned. Our apologies to all candidates and stakeholders. We have been working hard with our partners over the last few days to rectify these problems. The situation has improved dramatically and we hope to provide the desired exam experience for the remaining days. All those who have not been able to take the exam will be accommodated.

Please note that all your messages to customer care are being addressed. We thank you for your patience and hope you will bear with us.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dipa Chakraborty - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:43 PM
  Hi Dagny Mam, I have a doubt...smile, please clarify it. It seems there is some "radio" button and one needs to mark it with every answer...( am sure some form of speculation doing the rounds again)...but  what is it anyways?..can anyone just tell that.Heard from the horse's mouth that people giving exam frm Guwahati centre in Assam, were not allowed 15 min s. demo by test coordinators smile...as it is the only centre in Assam, is there a single soul in TG who can throw sum light here..smile.. ..Also, please can anyone clearly specify if we can unmark as in "unattempt" the question , once attempted?...does double clicking work?....smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by multi loop - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:47 PM
 

Hi,

CAT is on the last day. I`ve been readings forums abt the experiences of CAT. Without repeating any of the stuff, i would say i tried hard not to get unnerved due to the apparent fallacies in the entire system.

But i couldn`t contain myself when i c that people are gaining advantages by one way or the other:

1) People are asking for the questions from fellows who have already written. I saw a forum where people are blindly posting there email ids to get to know some of the questions.

And this will help coz questions ARE being repeated.

2) At some coaching institutes the mentors took the test on the first day itself and are heartily forwarding exact questions to their students.

3) People have bought last yr papers, George summers, Maths Olympiad and for people who have their exams on 6th or 7th, solving the above material is not gonna be a gigantic task.

4) People are restarting their PCs to gain advantage in which they solve 2-3 questions. Even if they do not deliberately restart there are reports that the PCs hang by themselves.

Is this all fair? I try to refrain myself from anything immoral but i c no reason why i shouldn`t enquire abt the questions from people who have already written the test, why i shouldn`t restart the PC (or atleast pray that the system hangs (in a lighter vein) ).

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ced rik - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:53 PM
  I am afraid what you have heard is true my friend. They allow going to the washroom till 30 minutes before the start of the exam, and then 15 minutes after the end of the exam. Add to that the 2 hour 30 minutes of the actual paper, and now you know why many people are frustrated this year. However I feel with some practice anything can be managed.

And oh yes they provide water bottles in the room. I even managed to smuggle in a mars bar which I ate minutes before the exam, much to the envy of people around me.

Don't worry be happy, everything will be fine.

Ced
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by gagan awal - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:54 PM
  Hi Kanika,

Go to this link - You'll find a very well defined map:
http://catiim.in/test_centres.html#Gurgaon

@Friends: You can find directions to all centers on this link.

I have the same Center, btw when is your date?

Cheers
-Gagan
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ritika bajaj - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:56 PM
  Hi multi loop,

just one thing to relax your stressed up mind. Don't give your exam on whatever date it is scheduled and sleep well that whole day. you'll be on the safer side. who knows what is going to happen to those who are doing this. Its better to stay at home and complete your sleep that you were loosing while preparing for this "Imperfect Test".
 

short cut always seems to be an easy way. But everything that shines is not gold...well said by somebody


sleep well

Ritika
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Monday, 30 November 2009, 10:03 PM
  Hi Multi Loop,

There is not an easy answer to this question. All I can say is that you expect your family, your friends, your life partner, your school mates, your teachers, and so many others that you come in touch with, to be truthful and honest with you. Others also expect the same from you. Nobody would be watching you if you cheat or call up a friend and ask some questions. Integrity is a matter of holding the right when things are going wrong or when nobody is watching.

I do not know if the IIMs have it but B Schools abroad have something called the honor code. Here is the honor code of Columbis Business School- As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.

I heard a Stanford Business School alumnus saying that there are no invigilators during the exams, but nobody cheats in Stanford GSB. Remember that if you do not follow an honor code before going to IIMs you do not deserve an IIM even if you get in by unfair means. Whether it matters to you or not is a choice that you have to make.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by elegant elegant - Monday, 30 November 2009, 09:57 PM
  Could anyone please tell is there any highlighting by yellow colour? I saw in some post about it.
Thanks.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ced rik - Monday, 30 November 2009, 10:00 PM
  Dipa,

Radio buttons have nothing to do with radios, don't panic. It just means you click on one of the four options provided.
Even our proctors asked us to click on "Start Exam" without going to "Start Tutorial". But I adamantly went to the tutorial. I suppose it's within your rights to do that.
Once you click an option, it gets selected. To un-select it, you just click on it again.

Good luck.

Ced
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Varun K R - Monday, 30 November 2009, 10:06 PM
  Hello TG,

Till now I was not at all concerned about the "glitches". But now
(quoting from a website)
On problems reported by individual students of computer errors and reboots that gave some people extra time to solve problems, Prof Barua said, “If there is a genuine reason, they should report them to the center head and it would be considered. But if the students were idling their time away while the snag was being repaired then it is not the IIMs’ responsibility.”

How is the answer related to the question posed? Either I have not understood this statement  or
The above statement makes a  good Critical reasoning question on Non-Sequitur

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by raja chava - Monday, 30 November 2009, 10:10 PM
 

On a lighter note, I wonder why u chose the id 'ced rik'.........

From Harry Potter? If so, I wonder why u chose that character.....tongueout

I know this post will prove to be the most useless of the posts in this link...cool

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Monday, 30 November 2009, 10:16 PM
  Hi Varun,

The students seeing others getting extra time should report... students getting their computers rebooted can be idling...

The mistake can be on part of the person reporting the statement also.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ced rik - Monday, 30 November 2009, 10:23 PM
  No from that stupid quake game!
Now back to MBA. Focus focus
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by loo czar - Monday, 30 November 2009, 10:33 PM
  Disclaimer: Before I begin, I assume Article 19(a) of the Indian Constitution holds good here, excepeting of course the Non Disclosure Agreement.

Hi TG

It's probably 'much ado about nothing' or nonsensical herd mentality overpowering sane thoughtfulness... BUT..
I don't think any of your students has a visceral grudge against CBT-CAT. I fully support it and I'm sure the feeling is mutual. However, more than praying for the success OF CBT, candidates are praying for success IN CBT. And though the former begets the latter so to speak, isn't it quite natural on an aspirant's behalf to first think of his/her own candidature rather than the picture at large? What worries one the most is the nonchanlance exhibited by the IIMs regarding the unfair advantage some candidates have been getting cause of system restarts.Subjective the issue could be but they HAVE TO do something about it. Aspiring for IIMs doesn't put them beyond questioning. Being the citizens of a democratic India, we have every right to question the adequacy and/or failings of its institutions.We do not want to fail the System and hope the System won't fail us too. Come what may, Justice MUST prevail and there MUST be a level playing field for all.
All the best folks! And more importantly.. All the best IIMs wink

PS: To err is human, after all !
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by avijit mohapatra - Monday, 30 November 2009, 10:41 PM
  Hi all
It was interesting to learn about the cheating issues in CAT. But I want to stress on one very important thing : IIMs have no tolerance policy against dishonesty and cheating. I would advise all serious aspirants to refrain from such practices because you are going to risk your career to gain infinitesimal advantage.
About the students who have resorted to unfair means : IIMs are also very conscious about their reputation and especially related to admissions because the rigor of the admissions is the USP for IIMs during placements. So I do not expect any compromise on this front and the vigor and rigor of GD/PI would undo any mistakes of CAT.
So guys don't worry about whats going on,pray hard and consolidate all your preparation to which you have put your blood and sweat.
Do not let go your efforts in this chaos.
Stay Focussed, believe in God and you are going to "Bell the CAT"
Best of Luck
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Monday, 30 November 2009, 10:42 PM
  Hi Loo czar,

If I was a serious CAT aspirant this year, I would have concentrated on my performance and not on what others are doing.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Monday, 30 November 2009, 10:44 PM
  Hi Avijit,

Kabhi to apne naam ke neeche "IIM-A" likh liya karo smile

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Panks Nan - Monday, 30 November 2009, 10:55 PM
  Kanika, it dos't seems to be connected well through public tranport, so do not rely on that. Regarding safety, though its not so busy road but not so idle as well, and morever you will get enough folks going for cat exam, so it should not be an issue smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by pulkit kaushik - Monday, 30 November 2009, 11:06 PM
  hi
can anyone tell that is it necessary to navigate the 60 questions in order?..
can i jump to any question i want or not?
and how?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sachi bhat - Monday, 30 November 2009, 11:25 PM
  Regarding the cheating issues, II"ms would know about it. Each lab has many cctv camera and IIM's can revert back to that any time
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Monday, 30 November 2009, 11:57 PM
  Hi All,

We would really appreciate if students who have already taken to test share their CAT 2009 experiences without disclosing the content or the format of the test. If possible, do share how you prepared for the test or any last minute tips that might be helpful for people who are yet to take the test.


By now it is clear that CAT is not getting cancelled. IIMs would be taking the corrective measures for the upcoming days. So why not focus your discussion towards of preparation, strategy, and experiences?

Dagny

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by s ram - Monday, 30 November 2009, 11:59 PM
  Can anyone please let us know if anyone has got any idea about any negative marking if any
thoughtful

I think TG can excuse me for not reading this entire forum this time around with regards to searching for the answer to the question i have mentioned above

There is already so much negativity even before the exam that negative marking should be a positive sign big grin

some pointers plzz

thanks in adv




Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Pavan Kumar Manda - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 12:30 AM
 

Hi TG and other alumni of IIMs who have descended here to defend their institutes,

It is a fact that CAT is the USP of IIMs. The competition in CAT is what makes IIMs tick in Placements. The argument that GD/PI would take care of any injustice is plain illogical to say the least. May be GD/PI will take care of unfit candidates not getting in, but it doesnt and cant undo any thing done to candidates in this round of the process. Every undeserving candidate in GD/PI means a deserving cadidate losing out in the first round itself. How does it matter if the undeserving candidate is later weeded out. IIMs have made a blunder, that is plain and clear. To say they have conducted small drills on few hundreds to simulate 20000 people is non sense.

I empathise with you people(TG and others), as I do feel the same when raises q marks against IITs. But then again, we all have to accept facts as they are.

Now coming to CAT 2009 itself, all I am planning to do is to revise mock cats. that is it. Nothing much. medidate for some 20 mins daily. That is all I will do till Dec 4th.

Hope this helps. sorry If I was harsh, but I had to let that out.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by divya chaudhary - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 01:01 AM
  tg sir..as it is being constantly told that previous years ques are coming in CAT(esp in quant). Does it mean that we should start doing (or i shud better say)cramming that papers? I mean i just have 2 days left for my exam. I was thinking of relaxing in these two days.SO, should i start doing all previous years stuff or shud i sit back n relax. what do you suggest sir.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Vijay S - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 01:10 AM
  Hi TG,

Is there any thread on DS questions ? Couldn't locate it ! sad
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Balakumaran Kamaraj - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 02:43 AM
 

@ Pavan kumar Manda

I am not here to defend TG or IIM. But I seriously doubt if you have got your facts right. Firstly, TG is not an alumnus of IIM, not that it is of any importance to the argument .But gives some picture about your depth of research.


Secondly, the chances of ‘deserving’ getting left out. Do you think a guy who is capable of getting that magical 99.9X is going to be left behind because of the marginal advantage allegedly a negligible percentage have got? I don’t think so.

 

Again what is that advantage we are talking about? Let’s autopsy it.

Few people accidentally had their system restarted and got few extra minutes.(Trust me it would be some fractional percentage of the total number of people writing the exam ) The panic that would have been created during those few minutes would have consumed  the extra minutes and hence would have eliminated the advantage. Given a choice, how many would restart a system to get that few extra minutes? You will lose continuity and become a victim of uncertainty for those few minutes completely nullifying the advantage of extra few minutes you get.

 

 Secondly, questions repeating from previous years .I don’t think this is happening for everyone. First day people had this and after that I haven’t heard anybody saying this. This is not too much of an advantage seriously when you didn’t know this is going to happen beforehand (which was the case with the first day people). Also it isn’t easy cramming some 1000 odd problems from previous CAT papers in few days. Certain important topics have some standard concepts outside which you may not be able to ask many things.

 

George summers thingy. If someone had completed the full George summers book, he deserves to get whatever marks have been allotted for that particular puzzle in CAT. Again here no one knows if some same puzzle is getting repeated across slots. It’s all assumption.

 

By taking these small and insignificant number of issues seriously, magnifying it, blowing it out of proportion, we are giving life to a non-existent devil which just feeds the paranoia of few agitated souls.


 You have mentioned "To say they have conducted small drills on few hundreds to simulate 20000 people is non sense." Do you expect the drills to be simulated with all the 200000 people? That makes sense to you? While no one denies the fact that there's some serious mismanagement on the part of IIM on the infra-structure front, and more could have been done on the User acceptance testing part of the application (Mainly load and stress testing) ,it’s too early to pounce on the IIMs and say that they are running a flop show especially when you have such a huge number of people taking the tests successfully . It’s not at all fair. We aren’t even aware of the marking schemes and the complete framework to be able to do any analysis on the advantage/disadvantage of candidates across slots. Remember, we are all writing the exam just one day one slot this year. IIM, this year, is writing it on all the twenty slots. Who has more stakes?

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dipa Chakraborty - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 06:41 AM
  smile..thnx ced rik
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Jamal Mohideen - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 07:06 AM
  Hi Bala,

Thnx for ur logical post.

Just a few comments.
"Few people accidentally had their system restarted and got few extra minutes.(Trust me it would be some fractional percentage of the total number of people writing the exam )"
People haven't got just few minutes. They got 20-25 minutes of break. They have chit-chatted with their neighbours. Its not the problem of continuity anymore since the test begins where u left.

"By taking these small and insignificant number of issues seriously, magnifying it, blowing it out of proportion, we are giving life to a non-existent devil which just feeds the paranoia of few agitated souls."

Very true.....

"Do you expect the drills to be simulated with all the 200000 people?"
200000 people needn't be present for testing. Not even one person is required. There are simulation softwares which can do load and stress testing across geographies.

"Remember, we are all writing the exam just one day one slot this year. IIM, this year, is writing it on all the twenty slots. Who has more stakes?"

Their stake is to make up people take up the exam...irrespective of their bad experiences. They want numbers.... Like 99% took up exam successfully today.... We want to give our exam in a fair manner.There is a huge diff in that.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Tushar P L - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 07:27 AM
  Hi,

   My exam experience was better than mocks that I was taking .

 The verification  process went smooth. The documents required were 1) admit card 2) photo id 3) CAT Voucher. I was at my terminal 1hr before the start of the exam. So just make sure you do not sleep off in the agonizing hr before the exam.

  Instead of pointing at  level of difficulty of the paper which might be different in other slots, I would just like to bring to your attention the features that will enable to attempt quickly.

  1. Marked Button: You can mark the question that you think are doable and come back to them.

  2. Review Button: Click it to take you to a screen which has list of questions with status - complete or incomplete. You can navigate to any question by double clicking on the question. Hence this is a good way of checking where each of QA, VA , DI section lie. Also a good practice will be to mark the qs on paper for DI - to indicate which are DI or LR so that you can decide later which to attempt and directly go to that question through the review screen.

 3.  Highlighting : Highlighting text just shows the selected text in yellow color. helps in reading.

 4  Caution: DO NOT click Quit Test or the End   button in Review Screen. This will end the test.

 5. Deselecting an option : You can select or deselect an answer

 Well that's all. All the best to other gadhas who are yet to take the exam. I am sure all of you will do well.

Thanks,
Tushar
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Balakumaran Kamaraj - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 08:06 AM
  Hi Jamal,
Thanks for the reply.

"People haven't got just few minutes. They got 20-25 minutes of break. They have chit-chatted with their neighbours. Its not the problem of continuity anymore since the test begins where u left."

Do you think this number is significant enough to affect the chances of the "truly deserving"?And I don't think people who are serious about the exam will chit-chat when their system has hung /restarted during an exam.This isn't a mock-CAT for them to stay that cool.

"There are simulation softwares which can do load and stress testing across geographies."

I'd mentioned this in my post as well.
"More could have been done on the User acceptance testing part of the application (Mainly load and stress testing)"
The other person had said it was ridiculous to test with few hundreds.Thats why I had made this point.

As you point out,yes,rigorous stress or load testing can be automated and I have every reason to believe that prometric would have done this,just that, they were not careful enough or may be their "virus" theory IS true.

IIMs are very serious about CAT as much as we are serious about it,if not more.
CAT is what gives them the brand name,the ubercool potential managers whom they proudly flaunt,the incomparable respect,the unique admiration and what not!So,trust me,their reputation is at huge stake in conducting this exam.

We just picture them sitting inside air-conditioned rooms not doing or attempting anything.It will be difficult to empathise with them.But,trust me,they are under tremendous pressure to set things right and they are doing a pretty decent job at that.Already Union government(HRD ministry) has sought a detailed report and more and more pressure is being mounted on them with time,thanks to the online forums.

IIMs cant afford to fail in testing even 1 out of the 2 lakh odd candidates.That's the accuracy expected of them.Its not easy.Let's give them some space to breathe.

Iam not saying here that IIMs are beyond criticism.
Lets safe-vault all our comments and opinions and brickbats for now and definitely take them out once all these issues are resolved so that they or anyone trying this online thing don't repeat it in the future.Its time to get back to the oldest trick to do well in an exam.

Studying smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Mayank Kumar - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 08:59 AM
 

Hi to all TG-ites...

i dont hav much 2 say but i think CAT, the IIMs and the Prometric have let us down tremendously. mass copying, if true, might prove to the first big big straw on the famed camel's back.. TG sir, with due respect, if you are an IIM alumni, at least pl don't try to defend what's commonly accepted and proven to be unfair...

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 09:31 AM
  Hi Pavan,

a) Sorry but I am not from an IIM. No need to empathize with me. smile

b) I have said before that people should concentrate on their own performance rather than chatting about what advantage others got.

c) If you have your exam still, why are you roaming around in forums?

d) You can leave CAT you know..don't take the CAT if IIMs are such bad schools and full of so many irresponsible managers. smile

Also, I would prefer that if you people are going to make it a GD/PI discussion kind of thing, go and start a thread in Test and GD/PI forum. If you cannot help others right now, please do not increase their anxiety.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by akhilesh keshap - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:57 AM
  I absolutely agree with you here sir.
Integrity is something that we all should have and follow no matter what the circumstances are around us.
I would personally not like to get an IIM admission knowing that i have not deserved it but got it through unfair means.
Thanks for the lesson sir , these values make TG different from everyone else.

Regards
Akhilesh
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dipak Haridas - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 11:03 AM
  guys, I think TG is right...
believe we r all part of the SYSTEM.. pl don't behave like OUTSIDERS...
surely something better will come out of it..Believe.!!!
let's unite and gets our efforts directed into right direction...
let's clear our mind of cobwebs...
besides , those who want to gain access to the questions asked, will surly find the ways,(but on their risk). TG is not the place for that.

I hereby request TG to give us the gist of all imp points discussed so far...
going through whole post before D day will b cumbersome...

Regards
Dipak
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Anu Abraham - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 11:29 AM
 

Hi,

I had been introduced to TG 2 years back and had been actively using TG for my CAT preparation.After going through all the gungho happening in this forum,I thought it is time for my 1st post in here.

I took my CAT in the afternoon slot on 28th in Bangalore.There had been a total confusion happening about whether the exam will happen or not.N ofcourse there were a few students creating all the panic saying some of their friends received a mail and some, a call saying that their exam got cancelled.The process of getting the people for the exam had already started.But still those students kept repeating the story creating a whole fuzz o'er there.

Amidst all these we got into the exam hall on time.The exam started but half an hour late.It went smoothly for me and also for the people whom I had been mentioning earlier.I didn't experience any of the difficulties that I saw mentioned in the numerous posts in here.And I didn't hear any of my friends who have already appeared for the exam too having any issues other than the hype that is happening outside.

I would like to generalize it this way .There are problems that has happened in the general conduct of the CAT.But has actually happened to a very small percentage of people who are appearing for CAT.So why don't you guys just stop creating all the noise and get back to study/relax wot ever it may be for your D day.Go through the CAT demo that is fiven in the IIM website.That was exactly the way the exam screen looked and there were no surprises.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amit kheterpal - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 11:28 AM
 

thankyou TG sir,DAGNY mam for making this thread..smile

1)when you will sit in your exam hall ,near your terminal there will be one hard copy of instrusction .read it carefully.

2)please follow the rules which your invgilator will give you.dont ignore them.

3)if you have any silly doubt ,dont feel hesitated .just ask them and clear your doubts.

4)they will give 2 pencils,scratch sheet(4 paper,8 leaves) and earser.no shapner is provided

5)no extra scratch sheet will be given and if tip of pencil become blunt ,ask for a new pencil they will replace it with sharp pencil..

6)dont skip 15 min tutorial .watch it.yesterday in my centre there were many students , who have ignore the tutorial  and directly started their paper..

7)very important point:-a)there is "QUIT" button before the "NEXT ".be careful dont touch it.if you will touch it your exam will be over, it will not even ask "are you sure you want to quit the exam" after that no retake will be there.The buttons are

|Previous| |Mark| |Quit (End Test)| |Next| |Review|

b)dont press Q(alphabet) button from your key board it also stands for quit ,if by mistake it happen same process like quit button will take place.

c)If you go in REVIEW MODE then after reviewing dont press
the Done button, present on screen,otherwise paper will end
and get submit .

"your invgilator will tell you all the points listen him carefully''

8)if there is any technical glitch call the invgilator .he will help you..please be patient at that time..

9)use of scratch sheet:-1)dont forget to write your testing id on all the 4 papers.

2)divide each side of paper in 4 equal parts with pencil.it will help you in preventing mixing of calculations.even you will able to utlize the scratch sheet properly and dont have to use eraser again and again..

10)read questions properly.(i did many silly mistakes by not reading them carefully)

11)equal time to all the sections 40+40+40=120

135-120=15

15 mins to that section in which you think you can do better and score more marks.

p.s:-if you have any other process of solving then please ignore point(11)..

12)have a good sleep before your exam..

13)dont waste your time in asking questions.concentrate on your studies..

all the best..and give your best shot..smile

p.s:-if there is any further problem revert me back i will try my level best to help you all..smile

thankyou..smile

 

Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 11:41 AM
  CAT 2009 Important update (II)

Update on ongoing Computerized CAT 2009
IIMA, November 30, 2009: The decision to conduct computerized CAT was taken unanimously by all IIMs. The contract for delivery of computerized CAT was awarded to Prometric, a world leader in computerized test delivery. IIMs were responsible for generating questions for the tests and Prometric was responsible for conducting the test. The delivery could not be executed flawlessly because of virus attack on several test sites. Prometric is working to address the issues arising from the attacks.
IIMs would categorically like to assure candidates who could not take the test that they would get another opportunity to take the test. This assurance has been given by Prometric. The details will be worked out by Prometric shortly and announced.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 11:44 AM
  Hi Anu and Amit,

Thank you so mcuh for sharing your experiences. They are indeed helpful for people who are yet to take the test. smile

Dagny
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by NAHUSH PHADKE - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 12:08 PM
 

@ amit

thank you for your post. i have one doubt if u could clear it please .i heard the rumours about the environment of the screen becomes bad or some times even faultering the test questions if we click the REVIEW button at the start of the test itself.i am bit tensed about it, as i take the quant section first and if in the actual paper other section than quant will appear on the screen then to go directky to quant section i will have to use REVIEW at the start of the test itself.please help me if u can to clear my doubt.and also can we carry the sharpner inside the exam lab as it will take some ptecious minutes of our exam to get the new shrpened pencil.

thanks in advance 

     NAHUSH

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sriharsha B - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 12:13 PM
  Hi TG and Dagny,
Somethings come from the heart as this one.
I am not here to take any sides either of IIMs or of Prometric.
The only thing that touched me the most was TG's deleting of the thread.
Of course Total Gadha is the most intelligent side one would ever come across.I being a fool at even basic maths don't even know if I would be able to bell CAT this time like the numerous vain attempts I had earlier.
But I have religiously read all of TG's and Dagny's posts because of the immense motivation they have provided.
The day TG deleted the earlier thread I sat and thought for a long time.That thread was the easiest way at publicity.Evri1 was referring to TG for the exam details.
And then TG deleted that thread.
It was an act equal to Howard Roark rejecting offers that dint match his ideals or equally apt when rahul Bose rejects another PKSE 2 only because its not growth in the right terms.
Nothing has motivated me as much as you people did by deleting that thread.
Thanks TG and the whole team(I know its smallsmileto teach people to put their heart at the right placesmile

~Sriharsha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amit kheterpal - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 12:33 PM
 

anytime welcome dagny mam..smile

iam always ready to help others....smile

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by soumen paul - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 12:33 PM
 

after going through all the talk by fellow cat aspirants.. i just want to say just be cool.only the deserving guys will get in IIM .Dont forget GD and PI.

IT will bring the best of the rest.if you are really serious about CATthen just think about it and go through all the topics of QUANT,DI AND ENGLISH.Dont try to get short cuts .you never know what you will get in d day.so best of luck and be optimistics

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 01:00 PM
  LOL Sriharsha,

I didn't think any of the students would notice. smile We were running huge pageloads, registrations and visitors count for two days... and then we deleted the thread. Nothing short of harakiri. There were nearly 300 posts in the thread. But in the end, we decided we wanted good students, and good students would understand our reasons.

I think our reaction of deleting the thread is a revelation to us also. We have discovered ourselves and our values during this whole brouhaha.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amit kheterpal - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 12:57 PM
 

 

hi nahush dont go with rumours .just concentrate on your studies.iam sure once you enter the centre your all doubts will be cleared..smile

your first question i will not be able to solve..

 

for 2nd:-read it again:-

4)they will give 2 pencils,scratch sheet(4 paper,8 leaves) and earser.no shapner is provided

5)no extra scratch sheet will be given and if tip of pencil become blunt ,ask for a new pencil they will replace it with sharp pencil..

no you cant carry shapner and even you cant wear watch..there is strict checking and asking for a new pencil will not waste your precious mins ,just raise your hand ,your invigilator will come near you and you can ask pencil .they will replace pencil only when your pencil tip become blunt..smile

imp:-you will get enough time to clear your doubts with your invgilator.please ask from them each and every doubt  half an hour before the start of exam..

thankyou..smile

 

    

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by NAHUSH PHADKE - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 01:02 PM
  thanks again amit!!!
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by harshil singhal - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 01:48 PM
  hi nahush,
1. no, the screen doesn't go 'bad' on clicking the review button ... i jumped from one section to another many times and faced no issues.
2. you start with 2 decent pencils and I found 1 to be enough for the entire test. feel free to ask for a spare pencil when your first one gets blunt. forget about sharpeners, they asked me to deposit my spare change and the bus ticket i had in  my pocket smile
hope this helps ...
i'd suggest we all stop complaining about things that are out of our hands and resume the thing that IS in our hands.
personally ive asked all my friends giving CAT to stay away from the forums looking at all the madness around !
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 02:07 PM
 

TG Sir/ Dagny Madam,

I requested the following request ....

I dont want to spend much time on reading these forum replies. So please accumulate all points at a single place ( if needed create a new thread and restrict people from giving comments). So that we can easily go through those before the exam. It can be in the form of FAQs. And strictly mention that these are experiences from students and you are not responsible for anything....

Any update on this .............. Please tell me ...

I dont want to enter into the discussions going on here.... 

I dont waste my time and also others time .. this is my policy....

Please give reply....................

- Sreeni.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Kunal Parekh - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 02:20 PM
 

I gave CAT in today's morning slot in Mumbai(Bhyculla). It was very good experience bcas the overall level was moderate cum easy( however LR part was lengthy at some extent). One person in our test centre has clicked "end"  while reviewing the question and he unfortunately completed the test within 1 hr......I request you all to not click the end while reviewing. If you want to come again to that same page just double click on the question no.

Kunal

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by jaya dulani - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 02:25 PM
  Thanks a lot Amit..it was really very helpful..
Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 02:53 PM
 
Here is the compilations of the tips posted by students from this thread only. Take out a print of this, if you want to. smile

1. You cannot skip from one section to another. So people who have decided to attempt sections in order of their choice, please note that you will have to click as many nexts as the number of questions in each section.

2. There is a "Quit" button just next to the "Next" button. Be careful not to touch it.

3. "Review Incomplete" button will be really helpful. Once you finish one iteration of the paper, just click on that, it will take you to all the unattempted questions.

4. It may take some time to start the test. Once "Start exam" is clicked, it took as long as 15 mins for some to load. But the time will start clicking only after the first question appears.

5. Use the scratch paper judiciously. 4 sheets (8 leaves). No extra provided. No sharpeners provided. Ask for a new pencil when your pencil is worn out.

6. Please click on the "Tutorial" or "Begin test" only when asked. Some people clicked on the tutorial as soon as they took their system. It seems that all the machines will have to be rebooted if there is some amount of time difference between the different systems in the lab.

Lastly... I took my lunch around 1130 and reached the centre at 1. Had to be without food till 6. Please have something to eat till you reach the centre smile
--Vijay T

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Q- I ll be taking CAT tomorrow second slot...just a bit tensed abt technical probs..any suggestions.. or any precautions u guys wanna advise me......Amita
Ans- hi amita

As heard from one of my friends who was supposed to take CAT today, there is a START button every Test taker is supposed to click so as to start the test. Within 1 min of clicking the START button u are supposed to enter a PASSCODE(which will be only with the Invigilator) failing which your computer will be auto-locked and the test may stand cancelled. The same happened with my friend. So, make sure that when you enter the START button, the Invigilator is available next to you to enter the requisite PASSCODE w/o any delay. Albeit, he will be alloted another slot to take the test. There were around 20 candidates who suffered from this delay at his center.

Adding to above it is advisable to ask the Invigilator regarding any doubts you may have while entering pre-requisite information, which we are suppose to provide before starting the test.

i hope it helps. May Justice prevail!

All the Best to all!

Best Regards
iim freak
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Q- Does it take a lot of time to navigate from one ques to another...
I mean if I want to go from ques no: 5 to 10 using next button (5 times).. is it advisable..?? will it be a issue bcoz of the server ??

Also, sm1 reported that smtimes it takes a lot of time for the figures (related to quant area like geometry or DI problems) to laod while the timer keeps ticking... Is it true...???
Ans- Hi Manish,
It does not take a lot of time to navigate from one question to another. I navigated to and fro the entire 60 questions more than twice towards the end. There are no problems, as the questions are initially downloaded when you click on start.
There were no issues with the figures also.I didn have many figure based questions.
The screen is exactly the same as in the IIM demo, look wise. The buttons are
|Previous| |Mark| |Quit (End Test)| |Next| |Review|

Hope this helps!!!
Vikram---

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You can navigate from one section to other by using the review button..Say You r on Q-1 and want to jump to Q-21 than just Click Review button and you will get the list of 60 (Review screen) now Double click on Q-21 and there you go on Q-21..Khanjan

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Q- so after clicking the radio button for answer/option..we have to press mark before moving to next question???- Sachi
Ans- sachi, You need not MARK a question before moving to the next question. This is just for tagging in case you want to revisit the question later. Vijay T

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Based on feedback received from test takers, this is the compilation of FAQs. In addition to yesterdays list.

I request to go through this FAQs. Before posting any new query.

1 ) What was the type of questions covered in exam? ans- Based on the feedback received from the students who took the first CBT CAT, the initial impressions about CAT 2009 are as follows: As announced earlier by Prometric, the number of questions was 60 There were 3 sections as in previous CAT papers namely– Verbal, LR/DI and QA Number of questions in all three sections was 20. Most of the high performers in Mocks have reported attempting around 40 questions. Section wise attempting 13-15 qs in English, and about 12 ques each in quant and DI. Paper pattern was almost similar to previous CATs although the paper was a notch easier than CAT 2008 Many centres across India faced technical problems due to which some centres had to delay the exam and postpone it to a later date. While English was similar in difficulty level as last year, the RC passages were shorter. Quant was easier than the previous years’. DI section was a little time consuming.

2 ) what all is to be taken with us to the exam centre? ans - 1. Voucher (or Pay-in-slip ) 2. Admit Card (Print it from your mail a/c) 3. Photo ID as proof (License/ Voter ID etc) * NO pens, paper, watches etc. allowed * Cash/CC allowed

3 ) were there same number of questions in slot 2? ans - yes.... both the slots had 60 questions each.

4) What about final year student's affidavit? ans - affidavit typed as per the performa and duly signed by college principal will be sufficient.

5) Were questions jumbled? ans- questions were not jumbled. Though sections were not specified, there was a group of 20, 20 questions of all 3 sections .

6) Can we unmark the answer? How to review? ans- Answer once marked, can be changed any number of times.... To review, click on review button and then move todesired question by double clicking on the question number. You can switch from question 1 to question 55 directly, no issues in it.

7) what about negative marking? ans - Though no criteria was mentioned about the percentage of negative marking, no speculations should be made. Remember, prometric has earlier mentioned that there will be negative marking.Without assuming anything, it is suggested to perform equally well in all sections.

8 )Do they provide marks/scores after the completion of exam? No.

9) Is it all right to have emailconfirmatons@prometric.com with date of receiving on the top of it, as admit card? Yes. Its fine.

10) What are the stationary items provided to us? 1) 4 sheets of A4 size paper. No extra paper is provided. You can erase and use the same paper if you want.5 min 2) 2-HB pencil and eraser. Sharper is not provided. In case pencil is blunt they will replace it with well sharpened pencil

11) Do we need to give our prometric credentials(username/password) to get the Question paper loaded on screen? You do not need to give your prometric username password for the paper to be loaded on the screen. Do not login, it is there for centre login.

12) I don't remember my prometric user name and password?Is it required at the time ? You do not need your prometric user id or password.

13) Is it true that you are allowed to skip the 15 minutes tutorial and thus utilize the full time (2hrs 30 mins) for the test? No. The test is for 2 hr 15 min only + 15 min tutorial (optional)

14) Will the test be automatically submitted at the time? Yes. The test is automatically submitted once the time is over.

15) Can I mark options(or highlight in yellow colour) in DI or quant or verbal (not RC)in yellow colour ? It was given on catiim.in ? Yes. You can.

16) Can i attempt sections as i like or do i have to follow the order ? Yes. You can attempt the test in any order.
-----------Charles M
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A few clarifications :

-The marking scheme has not been disclosed anywhere, nor have they given any information abt negative marking or differential marking scheme. So assuming the Sample Qs which were uploaded at IIM-C website a couple of days back (there the mrking scheme was +3, -1), it's good assume that there wud be negative marking and not to attempt all the questions.

pallav

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Hi All,
got an info( very trivial ) from one of my friend , would like to share ." If you go in REVIEW MODE then after reviewing dont press the Done button, present on screen,otherwise paper will end and get submit ".--Rohit

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Q- 1. i have seen a screen shot of the review page (on catiim.in). it has an end button on the left bottom corner. is this button to exit the review page and go back to the questions' screen or to exit the test?
2. if by mistake one presses the quit or exit button, is a confirmation asked or the test ends?--Nimish

Ans-@ nimish
1. Do not press the end button as it will end your test. to go back double click on any question.

2. i dont know about the quit button but if you press end button it asks " are you sure you want to end."

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Q- In the Demo, I could see that REVIEW button available throughout the exam right ? But from the above content, I went through somewhere saying need to click next multiple times to go to the next section ... is it so? Sreenivas
Ans- There is Review button on your screen always. And you can easily jump from any question to any question through that button.

It is ridiculous that you need to press 'Next' multiple times.

Hope it makes life easier.- Kamal

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Hello..

I wrote my exam today morning in pune and exam and had no problems.

Two students had some problem while logging in,but when rebooted it was fine.No issues in the middle of the exam.

one thing i observed is, suppose i marked one question and moved forward and then if i press previous button it showed me the last unanswered question or marked question.I had to go to review and then choose review completed.

one more thing is,we are asked not to use review finish button.for this mistake they said  prometric wont be responsible.use review complete or incomplete buttons. Sudhir
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Folks, I gave the exam today in Mumbai and let me tell you - it was as smooth as a baby's bottom. Nobody at the center had any issues.

Most of the things people are posting around on forums can be wrong or misleading. One golden piece of information I got on this site a couple of days back, which put me under immense stress, which finally turned out to be completely false is that they don't give sharpeners at the site. They do! Yes people it's true, I swear on it. You can totally relax.

Good luck to all of you.--Ced

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Q- It seems there is some "radio" button and one needs to mark it with every answer...( am sure some form of speculation doing the rounds again)...but  what is it anyways?..can anyone just tell- Dipa
Ans- Dipa,

Radio buttons have nothing to do with radios, don't panic. It just means you click on one of the four options provided.
Even our proctors asked us to click on "Start Exam" without going to "Start Tutorial". But I adamantly went to the tutorial. I suppose it's within your rights to do that. Once you click an option, it gets selected. To un-select it, you just click on it again.--Ced

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1)when you will sit in your exam hall ,near your terminal there will be one hard copy of instrusction .read it carefully.

2)please follow the rules which your invgilator will give you.dont ignore them.

3)if you have any silly doubt ,dont feel hesitated .just ask them and clear your doubts.

4)they will give 2 pencils,scratch sheet(4 paper,8 leaves) and earser.no shapner is provided

5)no extra scratch sheet will be given and if tip of pencil become blunt ,ask for a new pencil they will replace it with sharp pencil..

6)dont skip 15 min tutorial .watch it.yesterday in my centre there were many students , who have ignore the tutorial  and directly started their paper..

7)very important point:-a)there is "QUIT" button before the "NEXT ".be careful dont touch it.if you will touch it your exam will be over, it will not even ask "are you sure you want to quit the exam" after that no retake will be there.The buttons are

|Previous| |Mark| |Quit (End Test)| |Next| |Review|

b)dont press Q(alphabet) button from your key board it also stands for quit ,if by mistake it happen same process like quit button will take place.

c)If you go in REVIEW MODE then after reviewing dont press
the Done button, present on screen,otherwise paper will end
and get submit .

"your invgilator will tell you all the points listen him carefully''

8)if there is any technical glitch call the invgilator .he will help you..please be patient at that time..

9)use of scratch sheet:-1)dont forget to write your testing id on all the 4 papers.

2)divide each side of paper in 4 equal parts with pencil.it will help you in preventing mixing of calculations.even you will able to utlize the scratch sheet properly and dont have to use eraser again and again..

10)read questions properly.(i did many silly mistakes by not reading them carefully)

11)equal time to all the sections 40+40+40=120

135-120=15

15 mins to that section in which you think you can do better and score more marks.

p.s:-if you have any other process of solving then please ignore point(11)..

12)have a good sleep before your exam..

13)dont waste your time in asking questions.concentrate on your studies..

all the best..and give your best shot..smile

p.s:-if there is any further problem revert me back i will try my level best to help you all..smile

thankyou..- Amit

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Q- @ amit thank you for your post. i have one doubt if u could clear it please .i heard the rumours about the environment of the screen becomes bad or some times even faultering the test questions if we click the REVIEW button at the start of the test itself.i am bit tensed about it, as i take the quant section first and if in the actual paper other section than quant will appear on the screen then to go directky to quant section i will have to use REVIEW at the start of the test itself.please help me if u can to clear my doubt.and also can we carry the sharpner inside the exam lab as it will take some ptecious minutes of our exam to get the new shrpened pencil.

thanks in advance --     NAHUSH

Ans 1) hi nahush dont go with rumours .just concentrate on your studies.iam sure once you enter the centre your all doubts will be cleared..smile

your first question i will not be able to solve..
for 2nd:-read it again:-
4)they will give 2 pencils,scratch sheet(4 paper,8 leaves) and earser.no shapner is provided
5)no extra scratch sheet will be given and if tip of pencil become blunt ,ask for a new pencil they will replace it with sharp pencil..
no you cant carry shapner and even you cant wear watch..there is strict checking and asking for a new pencil will not waste your precious mins ,just raise your hand ,your invigilator will come near you and you can ask pencil .they will replace pencil only when your pencil tip become blunt..smile
imp:-you will get enough time to clear your doubts with your invgilator.please ask from them each and every doubt  half an hour before the start of exam..
thankyou..Amit

Ans 2) hi nahush,
1. no, the screen doesn't go 'bad' on clicking the review button ... i jumped from one section to another many times and faced no issues.
2. you start with 2 decent pencils and I found 1 to be enough for the entire test. feel free to ask for a spare pencil when your first one gets blunt. forget about sharpeners, they asked me to deposit my spare change and the bus ticket i had in  my pocket smile
hope this helps ...
i'd suggest we all stop complaining about things that are out of our hands and resume the thing that IS in our hands.
personally ive asked all my friends giving CAT to stay away from the forums looking at all the madness around !--Harshil

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I gave CAT in today's morning slot in Mumbai(Bhyculla). It was very good experience bcas the overall level was moderate cum easy( however LR part was lengthy at some extent). One person in our test centre has clicked "end"  while reviewing the question and he unfortunately completed the test within 1 hr......I request you all to not click the end while reviewing. If you want to come again to that same page just double click on the question no. Kunal

 

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Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by abm . - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 03:09 PM
  hii..
i gave my exam today on morning slot at silicon, bhubaneswar. the whole process was smooth and well managed & there were no incidence of malfunction(i had some apprehension before, after seeing all the fiasco).
my overall performance in exam was okay.
qns breakup 20-20-20
i could attempt 14-15 in VA,7-8 each in QA and DI.

quants had many easy question which could be solved within 3 minutes.
overall it was on 'easy-moderate' side.
DI/LR is the main concern. it is too lengthy and 1-2 sets answers were ambiguous.no of question per set was less than what it used to be previously.
overall 'moderate'
VA had a fine mix of passage and verbal part.
overall 'moderate-difficult'.

those, who will be giving exam just be relaxed don't cast any apprehension about ur exam as u could get tensed and with that ruin ur exam.start relaxing from now u will need it more than any thing else to crack it.

on the hilarious side,saw a girl who had bought a photo as "photo-id" during the check up. big grin

things u will find useful in exam
1. the review button. it is like the brahmastra.
2. highlighting text on the passage.it will be helpful
3. mark button for reviewing. for those who will have ample time.
wide eyes wide eyes
warnings!! dont even accidentally click the quit button. everyone need to be very careful about that as i too was about to click on it. they have put it in between the review and forward button. though my personal opinion is it should be on top as people are bound to click on it accidetally.

!!all the best!!!
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amit kheterpal - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 03:29 PM
  nice compilation mam..thankyou..smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by vikas yadav - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 03:30 PM
 

Hi guys,

took my exam today at CMRIT,bangalore........

reached the centre on time.....was done with the documnet and bio verification by 9.20.....The whole process was pretty smooth and there wasn't even a single person who faced any sort of a glitch or prob(tat's wat is most important).....Though there was a power cutoff before the test,it was restored within minutes.....The prometric team were really helpful.....I was concerned whether v cud go to the loo after the verification gets completed or not???......Yes,they were allowing people to go even after candidates were seated(for me the time is a concern[smile])......The exam conditions were really nice.....The proctors were helpful and cooperative and did their best to avoid any inconvenience to us(A proctor even came to my desk and sharpened my pencils;that was so kind indeed)....

My attempts:

QA--> 17,was easy;guys try and captalise on this section for the clearing overall cutoffs.....All the topics were covered(except probability);brush up ur basics people.It would really help.

DI/L-->16,moderate(tat's because some questions(3-4) were tricky and some required a little of calculation);LR part was a little on the higher side of Diff..

VA-->16,moderate;Though the RC's were small and comprehensible,there were few inference questions with ambiguous choices..One of the RC's was a complete sitter.Some parahumbles,few sentence completion and a question or two on word usage and fill ups.

 

Those who wud be appearing for the xm in the coming days:

Js be relaxed guys;maintain ur calm and composure during the xm;read the questions properly(espicially in di);Avoid sillies(there's a scope for them[smile]) and u would easily sail thru the xm.Last but not the least Be positive!!![smile]

 

Other details pertaining to xm taking(technicalities ,i mean),u must b all aware of.Thanks and best of luck guys.Make the best out of ur 2.15 mins.

 

My sincere thanks to TG sir and Dagny mam.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by vikas yadav - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 03:42 PM
 

Forgot to mention this....Might be of some help.

There was a wrong question is Quants(As per my knowledge) and two of them were erroneous in DI too(the table part)

Guys,js don get stuck if ur answer isnt matching the choices available(hope it doesnt happen to nyone);pls don waste time in recalculating multiple times(the calculations arent that cumbersome,so it's possible that u wud hav got it correct in the 1st shot or 2nd one);Js mark the one which is closest to ur result(if at all u wana mark it) or else chuck it.I faced the same problem in 2 questions;rechecked my calclation thrice for both.Finally came to the conclusion that the answer choices are erroneous.That might create undue pressure.So ,make a quick decision rather than pondering over it.

That's a;; i have to say.

Best of luck fellas.Njoy the exam

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Vikas Bhardwaj - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 04:00 PM
  Yes Vikas,

You are right.I wasted good 10 minutes on a couple of questions,checking and re-checking the calculation.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Mahadevan V - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 04:36 PM
  hi,

"1. You cannot skip from one section to another. So people who have decided to attempt sections in order of their choice, please note that you will have to click as many nexts as the number of questions in each section."

i feel that is not required....

initially itself, u can go to the review page and click on the 1st question number of the section which u plan 2 attend 1st...it wil take u 2 dat section...

and to go back to the skipped section, again go to review page and double click the respective "starting" question number...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by abm . - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 05:00 PM
  i too lost on that a good 15 min and was getting unnerved whether i should select a answer or not.. finally left it..
i think there were two sets like that..
don't know what will happen in di.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Nikhil Jain - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 05:40 PM
  Hi TG sir
just wanted to ask that if we encounter a  question with wrong options and no option matching our answer, do we mark the nearest possible answer or just leave it ?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by vikas yadav - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 05:56 PM
 

Hi TG sir,

I hope i have not written anything exceptionable while writing bout my experience of CAT 2009(mentioning bout the RC's,Parajumbles etc...???)

If yes,pls lemme knw sir

Thanks

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ankit singh - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 06:34 PM
 

hello maam,

                  I have taken the CAT yesterday and I was so happy. I have done QA 11 , VA 12 and DI  6(only six). I am in b.tech 4th year and this is my first attempt. but After reading the posts here i think i have less chances. everybody has done more questions than me. 

    Maam please tell ,what are the chances for me. I have JMET and SNAP lined up too and I am feling low. 

   Maam I don't know the procedure after CAT. should I have to Buy Individual forms of each IIM or non-IIM insitute? please tell in detail if possible.

I didn't face any difficulty in exam, all systems were running smoothly, no crashes or bugs etc. My own college was my centre and it was functioning best in LUCKNOW till Day one. My online experience was great. also, there was a marking facility in RC Passages, where you can the particular line by just pressing the scroll button of mouse ...I found that cool.

ALL THE BEST EVERYONE.    

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Harish A - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 06:37 PM
  Hi All,

Took my CAT exam today, afternoon slot, the process went smooth. Yes there was few issues with systems (It is windows, and it was restart to the rescue), and none had any other problem what so ever, later. The Exam went throughly as per rules. One more thing that one should remember is that if you click on a answer, the option stands selected and only change the option, but you cannot erase the answer unlike the pen and paper test. Watch out, when you try to scroll down in RC and DI questions. And also the entire case let needs to be answered.


About my performance, it was horrible, 6 months of arduous preparation was put in Vain in just 2.25 hours. Difficulty was not in the paper, but truly because of my skills. If only I had not got 85 %ile in 2008, that would have been the end of the story, My CAT dreams ends today. sad

@ TG,
Are there any B-schools with decent job opportunities, that with Low caliber person like me, can find recourse..?

Thanks,
Harish.A
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by abm . - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 06:46 PM
  @harish: plz check with others before posting factually incorrect things. we could undo the selected answer. the way is we have to click on that selected radio button(there will be no separate clear button for that.)
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sandip Sahoo - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 06:57 PM
 

Guys,

Whats going on.....Everyone is doing well in the examsmile.In that too in exam like CAT where every thing is inpredictable.

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Vipul Patki - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 07:32 PM
 

Hi all,
Just returning from my exam center. Overall, it was a good experience. Attempted 15 questions per section. But then, can't verify the answers. So keeping fingers crossed.
My advice would be to start with QA as it would channelise the nervous energies efficiently (as NS Siddhu would put it) smile. It was the simplest of the three sections. Keep some Cadbury's or Crunchy bars so that you can keep munching for about an hour or so (Yes, chocholates are allowed!). Chocolates also have an additional advantage of being stress-busters.

Regards,
Vipul,

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by mayuri joshi - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 08:17 PM
  Hi Tg and Dagny,

My exam is on the 7th. It seems like a lot of people have attempted a very large number of questions. sad (and I totally am panicking) Cuz as per the earlier year's data, I was told that one generally needs to get 33 % of the total marks in each section to clear the cutoffs.
I Need to plan the number of questions that I should attempt in Quant and DI. (I am planning on attempting all the 20 English questions since its my strong section) I was thinking of attempting around 10 - 12 in both the sections. (and get them correct.smile)
What would you suggest I do ?

thanks !

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Ankesh Grover - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 08:18 PM
  @Sandeep Sahoo : It's coz everybody here is a TGite.. :P

Had my exam today at JNTU-Hyderabad, hence my first post on this thread.. ;)
The exam went nice( as has been the case with pretty much everyone..)...No hiccups..no crashing systems and no unfair means...
QA-15 (with 13 defo correct)
VA-17 (accuracy levels have normally been around 85%-90%)
DI-14( this might be my downfall sad...could have easily attempted 2-3 more, wasted time in LR...my advice, unless you are really really quick in LR, try not attempting them initially...there is just one ques to follow the lengthy LR, which would require the same time as would a DI set with 2-3 ques...)

Rest, as TG Sir and Dagny Ma'am have said again and again, Kindly believe in the System you so very much want to be a part of. The same system has been doing justice to each and every student till now and they will do so this time as well...Probably they'll take in more people through written this year and screen those out who got in through unfair means.And trust me, such people will defo get out that time...

And finally, a note of thanks to TG Sir and Dagny Ma'am... I don't know, but there is something about this site, which keeps you coming back again and again (and here am not talking about the content...enough has been said about that already)...It's probably the values which TG stands for...Deleting a thread at the height of its publicity, which every new venture thrives for, just because it was un-ethical and morally not acceptable, takes a lot of courage and speaks volumes about the kind of people TG Sir and Dagny Ma'am are...
I don't know whether i would be cracking the cat this year or not, yet i know even if i do, i would keep coming back to TG..and for once start solving questions in the forums..Else, as it is I would have to come back :P
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Ravi Shankar - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 08:36 PM
  Finally i appeared today for the exam in first slot in NSHM Durgapur...Maths paper was easiest of all...With DI and English with same difficulty level as earlier...

Most deadliest part..

I got my seat on 8: 15 AM and was idle n sleeping and yawning for next 2hr 15 minute...I tell you frankly this time seemed years to me..n Like a time bomb..

The easiest part was next 2hr n 15 minute ..exam time..seemed like few moments..that just passed ..

Funniest part..

The Prometric guys gave us strict warning regarding 2 points..

First dont press quit button..
Second dont press review Button...Most technical answer i have ever got regarding these frequently occurring problems...And told that if u want to press it..do call us...HAHAHAHA...I don't think anybody would have touched it after such strict warning.. except me...tongueout
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 08:43 PM
  Thanks Ankesh smile You should have heard the sadness in Dagny's voice when we deleted the thread. But she also wanted it deleted because she was worried about actions happening on students who had posted their email IDs.

Going to gym now... these three days have been grueling and nerve-wracking.



Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Pradyumna Mohanty - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 08:53 PM
 

CAT marred by virus is a lie. Its an eyewash to divert attention from lack of organisation. I dont know how the IIM's are going to pull themselves out of the issue but hopefully they find an appropriate way.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kanika arora - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 09:08 PM
  Dear TG sIR & fRENS !!!

I think no one is discussing about the paper. guys who still hv to appear 4 exam can discuss about strategy to attempt.. How much questions is suffice to atleast get rid of from tension as every1 is saying quant is manageble and DI is lenghty and VA is moderate.

so TG Sir & Ma'am I think if students expect it from you people that u will tell them smthng abt this, they are not wrong & there is no prob is discussing paper strategy whu still have to face d challenge.


guys u all are saying that dont press the review button ?
why bcoz of sm tech pro or has been denied by prometric. but guys dis is horrible to attempt paper widout review as its a non sense to click each section each & everytime to get into another sections. isn't ?

Regards
kanika Arora
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by baavla bhoot - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 09:24 PM
 
Hello Friends !

Dear Dagny Ma'am , Thanks a ton for compiling important points regrading CBT.when will u be taking the exam ? smile

1) Few more queries :1)Is there any highlighter button given separately on the screen.?
2) Since TG had posted that his friend was not able to see the watch on the screen ,so can we wear our wrist -watch for precaution sake ?

3) Does anyone has idea about Rohini centre's functioning ..can we inquire before hand about the chances of exam getting cancelled on the stipulated date  (GOd Forbids) or we will recieve any notification from prometric ?


Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Pavan Kumar Manda - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 09:38 PM
 

@TG - I thought I wouldnt reply to anything being said here after yesterday. Then there were couple of people asking me if I don't like TG. That is so very untrue. And I sincerely apologise to you for assuming you to be from IIMs. Just for the record, I am a huge fan of this website and I am indebted(beyond words) to you for this, especially Quant section. I visit this dialy and will continue to do so even If I make it to a B-School and I have already recommended it to many through a word of mouth.

@everybody - Now, All I was saying is every undeserving candidate in GD/PI is equal to one deserving candidate losing out. Finally number of seats is constant. If there are 100 students. one student undeservingly got 98 rank instead of 92 (which he deserves and cut off being 95) then the candidate with 94 rank is ruled out even before GD/PI. 

And what irked me was yesterday's statement from Prometric that they have just conducted small drills and nothing of load testing, which is required for such a huge exercise.

Load testing is a very basic and common phenomenon in IT field. Servers crashing due to load could have been avoided. After all there are only 40000 people writing it in one slot. Single mock CAT from Prometric would have done the trick.

I dont have anything against IIMs, but the preparation could have been better, a lot better. CAT convenor is not expected to say, all these issues are bound to happen when it is being conducting for the first time. This is life changing issue for many. He is not a politician (ala R R Patil) to make such a statement.

Anyway, now there seem to be many students are reporting glitch free exam. So Hope it is getting better.

If my statement left a bad taste with somebody, then I apologise as that wasnt my intention. I just tried to reason out. Anyways, all the best to all the test takers.

Hope all of us make it to a B-School of our dreams.

Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by multi loop - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:09 PM
 

Now this is the height!

At one centre here in Chandigarh, in one of the labs, students got 35 min of extra time. After the timer showed 00:00 the computer simply refused to shut the exam down.

(I understand some people will say that this is blowing things outta proportion or misleading people but 35 min is just too much for exaggeration)

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by viral viral - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:20 PM
 

Can we be able to switch from one section to another? 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Nicky S - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:18 PM
  User Interface of CAT for people who are worried about arrangement of DI/RC questions and also the positions of the 'next' and 'quit' button.

Ps: I have edited the CAT Demo to look like this and it is not a real screenshot.

CAT User Interface
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:24 PM
  Liza,

Sorry to delete your post but I find something fishy there. You have just signed up and you came straight complaining about IIMs. I do not see you mentioning your problem on any other forum. Please verify yourself before I can say something.

Why am I seeing posts of people whom I have never seen before this year ranting about IIMs here?

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by viral viral - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:25 PM
 

Thanks Nicky.

Can we be able to switch from one section to another? 
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Hungry Gadha! - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:32 PM
  good work...Nickysmile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:41 PM
  Pavan,

This is so unfortunate; here I am trying to teach my students not to get emotional, stay cool and focus on their task and then some of them go emotional about your post and talk down to you. sad I apologize for anything they said to you. And you are always welcome on this site. smile

As for the CAT goof up, you will have to understand something here- IIMs are not blase about this whole affair, no matter what their convener says. The mere reason that they called up a press conference was to pacify the agitated nation. They are also not unconcerned about the sanctity of their test. You really have to question yourself here- "Don't IIMs care who gets to study there?" If you think that they do care, rest assured they would try their damndest to find the right candidates.

I am also sure, and I would not defend my position if you chose to argue, that many rightful candidates would be left behind. But you know what, I have been in this industry for five years, and I have seen too many deserving candidates getting left behind and too many undeserving candidates getting selected. In the end, I realized one more thing- which I realized through my IIT Days- it is tough to survive studies at IIMs if you are not so bright. And life does not end there. It is tough to survive life if you don't deserve it.

All said and done, I think right now each student should help others in place of decrying IIMs and thereby spreading anxiety amongst the students who are going to write the test. Tell others not to worry and things will be fine. Good words have lots of power. They really help. smile

Total Gadha




Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Hungry Gadha! - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:40 PM
  oh is it! that's not good...some people gratuitously try to create hubbubs on forums. its clutter...please do delete them ceremoniouslysmile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:43 PM
  Nicky,

This is SOoo thoughtful of you. Thanks a ton. smile

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Nicky S - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:46 PM
  To switch from one section to another go to

Review -> Double click on a question you want to go to.

For Ex: At the begin of your exam, let's say you start with QA but the first section you see is VA.

Go to review -> Double click on Q No 21, if it is not from QA -> Go to Review and double click on Q41.

This way, you can navigate between sections.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Nicky S - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:54 PM
  No problem sir, I am happy to be of help!!

I owe it to you. smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:57 PM
  after this post of you sir, i understand what you mean to say very clearly.
thanks for rebuking me earlier smile

by the way, back in may you had predicted all of this, if you remember sir smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amit kheterpal - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 11:02 PM
 

1) Few more queries :1)Is there any highlighter button given separately on the screen.?(no there is no such button )


2) Since TG had posted that his friend was not able to see the watch on the screen ,so can we wear our wrist -watch for precaution sake ?( please dont write TG write TG SIR..smile now answer to your question:- i think you will not be allowed to take,if there will be problem tell to instructor)


3) Does anyone has idea about Rohini centre's functioning ..can we inquire before hand about the chances of exam getting cancelled on the stipulated date  (GOd Forbids) or we will recieve any notification from prometric ?
(i think prometric will update the site www.catiim.in if there will be any problem regarding cancellation of exam..)be optimistic..smile

p.s:-all the best..smile

thankyou..smile

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kanika arora - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 11:24 PM
  Why am I seeing posts of people whom I have never seen before this year ranting about IIMs here?

Total Gadha

it Means :-
1) TG sir, you prefer to answer the queries of your students or who regularly use TG.
2) and thats why my question is still unanswered.

           and i dont understand why are you so much bother about those students who are ranting again & again
about IIMs just bcoz of a nonsonse.

sorry to say but i have noticed couple of things abt you in sm previous days either you respond to your students or regular users of TG or students whu are here to motivate people
 
i am really sorry if am Harsh.!!!!sad

Regards
kanika

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 12:10 AM
  Hi Kanika,

lol!!
1. I see no reason why we shouldn't reply to our regular TGites.
2. I see a lot of TGites, who must have never ever interacted with you before, posting replies to your queries. 
3. Is there a problem if people are trying to create a healthy environment by motivating each other? We call it a positivity.
4. Why say sorry when you
already know that you are being disrespectful?

Dagny

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kanika arora - Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 11:52 PM
  thanks for your reply Dangy Mam as i was thinking that you guys will not reply even now also bcoz u r not bother about me but reason for being harsh is that i have asked a lot of questions but no reply from you guys. now you just replied abt my comments but not about by query. i am not saying that dere is problem in motivating but u know u guys are very busy so the time u use in THANKING or Praising to those guys can be used in genuine queries of students.

and also u shud reply to ur regular tgites bcoz sm how its ur responsibility & ur job but does it mean that if we have to ask or share sm thng wid you we have to be a regular user

kanika
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by bllitz blitz - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 12:06 AM
  Hi All,
Please go through previous posts at least once before posting your questions.
Please log only if you have anything different from what has been said in earlier posts.

Kanika,
A lot has been told about reviewing activity. Please refer to older posts. How can two people be expected to answer all queries getting posted here? You are being unreasonable and also rude.

Regards,
Blitz
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 12:07 AM
  Kanika,

Students call me TG, TG Sir or Sir, but it is after a long time somebody has used Total Gadha, that too with disrespect. I am sorry but if you think you can get an answer by accusing us of something, you will not. You could have asked again in a decent manner. It is not a job that we get paid for, we do it out of our own volition. I am sorry but you are not getting a reply from us.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Vivek Srivastava - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 12:13 AM
  @TG sir,
I think that at this point of time people should stop rambling about the fiasco of prometric or IIM's and should rather concentrate on what they have done in the past few months. All they need is to give their best and hope for the rest.

     Staying calm and not-loosing-focus is what's required and hats-off to TG sir, Dagny mam and all the mentors here for motivating the students and showing the right path.smile

bol to all CAT 2009 aspirants!
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by bllitz blitz - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 12:16 AM
  Hi TG, Dagny,
I have a suggestion.
There are some really good articles such as written by you, SE and others which gets lost in the threads. I used to log in everyday to see if some new articles have come up. Is it possible to have some kind of sorting/ranking? Such as Discussions, Fundas, questions etc so that it doesn't get mixed up with other threads? Search returns too many / less results.

Regards,
Blitz
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 12:24 AM
  Hi Blitz Blitz,

All the quant related article go to 'CAT Quant Lessons,' all the verbal related articles go to 'CAT Verbal Lessons,' rest go to 'General Articles.'

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by A. SINGH - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 01:11 AM
 

Hey everybody....

After reading most of the posts (some really informative ones...thanks to all the tgites 4 them) on this thread, one thing is sure....it's that we all our super passionate abt this exam and just want it to be glitch free and absolutely fair.

I also have a query....does any one have any idea whether the exam labs at janakpuri centre are fully functional now?

plz do reply...

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kanika arora - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 12:46 AM
  thanks a lot TG sir (atleast u replied), but U know everyone knows about himself/herself. we can lie to others but can not Lie to ourselves & I know myself that, neither my intention was that nor i was disrespectful to you. I still respect you as I always respect Seniors, talent & you deserve respect.

well dont want to write anything more as my exam is still on the way!

many many thanks !!!

kanika
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arnab _quant-um - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 12:57 AM
 

every1 is tense and worried (except a few idiots like me tongueout)...but guys just look at the way the two people who run this website are so supportive and patient,,,cant we as their students support them..i hav my cat on 5th..dont kno wat wud i do...but who cares....at the end its just another exam

dont obsess...be passionate...both are different things..

best of luck to all...

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Hungry Gadha! - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 02:34 AM
 

Hello Ms.!

 

Why such a sarcasm in your words?

Agreed, may be that is your trait but understand it’s not the obvious place my dear to use such a drivel!

now your words vexed me up and forced me to write this post!

words are not just words…understand that,you should use them carefully before writing @places like TG forums.

 

Yes, I’m proud being one of the senior most gadha here and I absolutely won’t tolerate if my mentors are at receiving end to such an idiocy. excusme...sorry,I can’t!

 

Dear, its not mere posting a query and getting reply….saying bye bye there after..but understand the gadha cult…which goes like this…

 

First try and learn …if not, then try to learn from others…still not then come to masters…and later don’t forget to help others!

 

Absolutely neither i meant an offense nor i'm trying to preach or teach a lesson but I certainly want you to change your script if not cult…

 

Hope you mean my words!

 

-HG

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by OnTheGo _Gadha - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 02:49 AM
  Absolutely BINGO HG! smile

"Don't give up the ocean (TG & Dagny) for a drop (you-know-it)!!!"

OTG smile
(still dreaming of that auspicious-highly-desired signature ;) )
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Jim Braddock - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 04:04 AM
  Dear HG,

You have yourself accepted the supremacy of Masters on all, then why are you getting so agitated. I can understand your point very well but when Masters (Off course our favorite Dagny Ma'm & TG Sir) have already replied on the issue, we should not jump into it.
The purpose of this portal is very niche so just relax. Still, there are more people who love this wonderful initiative...smile

Well I hope you all intellectuals must have performed good in CAT. Those who are yet to write the exam, GOOD LUCK!

Regards,
Jim
IIMB - The Place to 'B'
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by priyank vyas - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 05:24 AM
 

HELLO EVERYONE,

I'M PRIYANK AND I'M WRITING A BLOG HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME

ACTUALLY THERE WERE SOME POSTS SAYING NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT TG SIR.....AND I COULD NOT TOLERATE THAT

I HAVE JUST GIVEN MY CAT ON 1ST DEC AND IT WENT GOOD.... AND I GIVE FULL CREDIT TO TG SIR...... THE CONFIDENCE THAT I HAD ON D-DAY WAS ONLY BECAUSE OF HIS TEACHINGS

I'VE READ ALL HIS BOOKS AND HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS WEBSITE SINCE 3 MONTHS AND TRUST ME NO COACHING INSTITUTE CAN TEACH U IN 2 YRS WHAT TG SIR HAS TAUGHT ME IN 3 MONTHS

WELL, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM FORTUNATE TO HAVE LEARNED FROM U SIR AND WHATEVER THE RESULTS BE..... THE JOURNEY WITH U WAS WORTH IT

3 CHEERS FOR TG SIR   

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 05:47 AM
  There are times when i don't agree to sir, but then there is a proper way in which you should talk to someone who you call sir in the first place. and here is something you should learn-people don't get respect when they want to or when they beg, they do when they deserve so. the same applies to answers. if you deserve answers i am sure that many people would have answered, including tg sir and dagny ma'am. know your limits, disagree but with reason, respect and intellectuality not with harsh words and cynicism. none of that will get you anywhere anytime soon.

every button in the test software works just fine-everyone i know has used the review button successfully. hope that was clear enough. if prometric/niit proctors tell you that you can't press the button stand up and ask why, if they give you a half baked answer then tell them that you are capable of dragging them to court.

the reason sir doesn't respond and doesn't want to either is because he can't and shouldn't decide "strategy" when the exams are going on. it will be unfair in many ways and will be speculative. how hard is this for you to understand?  forget the thanks, a sorry is more due to him form your side.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by murari agarwal - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 05:55 AM
  Hi TG Sir,Dagny Mam &other people who contributed to this site,

Today Morning I will be giving my exam.I am not much bothered about the results because I believe "Give your best ,Forget the rest".
Irrespective of how I fare in my exam, I want to thank each one of you for sharing knowledge and motivating others.Knowledge is meant to be shared and that is exactly what everyone on this site has done. Kudos to all....

Regards,
Murari
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Samiran Ghosh - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 09:31 AM
  hi,
Can any one tell me, what to do when i have answered to some some question and finally i m not very sure of that! Hw to unanswer that question?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by charles M - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 10:04 AM
  Hi friends

As TG's number system and geometry book, once you refer to this instruction, you will not have any more apprehension about the CAT 2009 online requirements.

WHAT WE DO KNOW ( Things needed to be considered)

Prometric has extended the deadline for editing details till Dec 11.

Biometrics Testing includes your photo being taken by a PC camera and an electronic finger printing (left and right hand index finger 3-3 times).

Voucher Admit card printout and Photo ID are required to give the test. If you have lost either, call on the Prometric helpline immediately. Voucher number is required to login. The confirmation email need not be printed in the admit card. Only the admit card summary is important.

Having different addresses in the admit card and in the photo-id won’t deter you from giving the test. To be on the safe side, if such a case rises, take your electricity or telephone bill with you.

You do not require the Prometric username and password to give the test.

The password required to login to the test will be given by Prometric volunteers at the start of the test.

For doing rough work, pencil, eraser and a booklet having 4 A4 sizes papers (8 sides) are provided. No sharpners are provided. They just change your pencils.

Skipping the 15 minutes tutorial won’t grant extra time for the test. It is advisable to go through the tutorial anyway.

System is user-friendly.

Changing resolution of the screen (zooming) is not possible.

Exiting the test software or opening another application like Notepad of MS Word is not possible.

Cntrl + F is disabled. So finding a word in RC using the same is not possible.

Duration of the test won’t keep one down.

Negative marking exists.

You can start from any section of your choice.( Questions are arranged in sectionwise format each 20)

To clear the clicked option, re-click on the same to deselect the option.

The END button is very close to the NEXT button. Be extra careful. You don’t want to ruin a year.

We can jump between questions by using the Review feature (as shown in the CAT demo Player)

Highlighting multiple lines in an RC section is possible. However, the selection is lost if we move away from the section.

Time left is displayed on screen. Timer logs you out automatically at the end of the test.

You wouldn’t get a score-sheet immediately after the exam is over. The results will be announced on 22-Jan-2010

Make sure to file an official complaint with the Prometric ‘proctors’ if you find issues with the technology (any technical glitches) while giving the test.

WHAT WE DON'T KNOW
1. Weightage of a question
2. Will the number of questions remain the same for all the time-slots?
3. Quantum of negative marking.


Certain Feature to be known:


Highlighting Text:
You can highlight text in group questions like RCs. You can make multiple highlights in a particular screen, which gets deleted once you switch to the next screen.

Reviewing Questions:
You can mark a question to come back to it later. You can then Review either all the questions or review only the marked questions or review only the incomplete questions. The review shows a list of all the questions, but it will not directly give you a count of the questions attempted or to be attempted. You will need to manually count the number of questions for such data.

Items provided for rough work:
Pencils, eraser and a paper booklet of 4 A4 size papers will be provided. You will not be allowed to take your own stationary into the computer lab. In case of broken or blunt pencil points, your pencil will be replaced immediately.

Ending the test:
If you click the END button at the bottom of the screen, you are immediately logged out of the test. There is no popup box asking you whether you are sure about quitting the test. This button is very close to the NEXT button. Hence, while giving the test DO NOT click on the End button at any point of time.

Timer:
The timer is present on the screen at all time and shows the time remaining till the end of the test. Wrist watches are not allowed into the computer lab. At the end of the test, when your time runs out, you will be automatically logged out of the test and a screen with “You have run out of time” text will be visible.

STRATEGIES
As marking system is unknown, the only strategy in hand is to attempt as many questions as possible without compromising on accuracy.

Students claim that the level of difficulty of CAT was not as high as expected. Hence attempting more questions correctly will give you an edge.

Source:testfunda
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by liza singh - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 10:46 AM
  Hi Tg sir,
            i joined tg with much expectations because it was suggested by my friends too.i was very upset that i faced such problems after signing in for cat exam.i want you to knw that my intention wasnt to complain about iims.i just mentioned my problm to get a solution out of those people in tg and you.it was not at all any complain on iims.i completely respect them and i know that these problms occured since its the first time they introduced online cat exam.
                       I dont have any other griveinces aginst them-its just that i am standing in a situation where i gave my examination but still around 15 to 16 questions were optionless and incomplete.I felt helpless and i tried to take solution after  my friends suggested totalgadha.I am trying my best to get some solution for it.that's it.there isnt anything fishy sir.I am really sorry if you felt like this.I am feeling more troubled now when you wrote like this.i didnt expected it.I signed in the morning in tg to check whether i can gt some way out and opinion on the same from you and other members of it.You didnt noticed that in none of the post a problem lik mine was observed.I repeat again that it wasnt a complain etc..& nyways i cant go and change your opinion for my post.thank for yr reply.
                                                     Thanx
                                                      liza
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Hungry Gadha! - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 11:42 AM
 

Jim,

yeap agreed, but dunno it was just a sudden reply came out direct from subconcious mind :|...BTW, i haven't had my date yetsmile.

catch you soon..

Takecare!

 

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amit kheterpal - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 11:15 AM
 

3^infinite cheers for TGsir and DAGNY mam..smile

ones again thanks jim bro..smile

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 11:53 AM
  Hi Liza,

Sorry for my earlier post. I think you will have to write to Prometric. Also, I believe as they are busy right now with trying to get rest of the tests successful, the complaints may not be heard right now. But I sincerely hope that once the rescheduling part comes, the complaints of the aggrieved candidates are heard.

*hugs* I am sorry I cannot offer you something concrete to help you out. Maybe you should focus on the other exams right now. Let's see if Prometric replies to you.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by harshil singhal - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 12:03 PM
  i know this will be a tiny drop in the ocean and will get lost in all the complaints but what the heck ...
thanks to the TG family for all the guidance and lessons posted. this 6 month cat 09 ride was fun although there are still some loose ends to be tied up.
for those who just cant stop complaining - its just too bad.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ritika bajaj - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 01:06 PM
  @ALL

what if we all had our exam on the same day rather than having this slot of 10 comforting days?? I'll still suggest you all to concentrate on what requires the concentration. AND STOP BLAMING THE TWO SOULS WHO HAVE BEEN ALWAYS THERE FOR YOU (it is bit specific for someone to someone).

anyways I have my exam tomorrow. will share my experience for sure.smile

take care

Ritika
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by yash gupta - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 01:08 PM
  sir please predict the expected cut off for each section as well as overall cutoff ,
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amit kheterpal - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 02:11 PM
  all the best ritika..smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ritika bajaj - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 02:25 PM
  Thank you so much Amit. smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Abhinav Agrawal - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 02:33 PM
  Hello everyone,

I read the complete thread just now, after i took my exam yesterday. I must say, this is the most positive thread bout CAT on the internet. I missed the site all through my preps this year coz i didnt have internet sad. Although I was taught by TG and the other faculties at tathagat, the fun I had last year on the forums with Dagny mam was missed..

Well, afa CAT is concerned, I took the exam ysterday, and had no difficulties AT ALL! Infact, if you ask me, I am all praises for the interface they have created, the no. of sheets they provide, the behaviour of the proctors.as soon as you log on, your photo and the details on the screen fills you with confidence ki 'bhai, main apna hi paper de raha hu' smile. Just make sure you ask bout every click before the exam starts and all vl b gr8!! once the exam starts, its a very smooth affair, ekdum fast! usse pehle it takes a bit time to load the test and all, just dont panic thn, doubt hota hai to proctors se puch liyo, i did that 3-4 times. Mera screen blank ho gaya tha after i pressed start test button!!! usse pehle thr was a 'virus' alert on my system, kuch prb nai hui usse, isliye dont panic.. Even ek bandi ka keyboard kaam nai kar raha tha to thy chngd it, ek ne keyboard gira ke tod diya, thy were like koi baat nai, aap exam dijiye!!

Overall, had it not been the 1st two days of hype, this online CAT seems to be a great success. Ask the students who have taken the exam, talk to them. Don't go by the reviews on the forum, I was pretty tensed in day 1.. Thr was lotta confusion regarding the 'mark' button, the 'review' button, if d attmpted ques can b undone, can the answers b changed.. dont worry, each doubt abv has a favourable ans.. jo jo tutorial me bola hai, EXACTLY waisa hi ho raha hai..

Bas ek cheez dyann rakna sab, DONOT PRESS ANYTHING THAT LOOKS LIKE END OR QUIT, test end ho jata hai!! No1 in my room made this mistake as the proctor had told us atleast 5 times, but everyone please b very careful of this. Just hold on to your nerves, evrythn would be v good.. smile))

All the best to everyone who is to take the test!

Abhinav
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Hungry Gadha! - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 02:47 PM
  Voila, is this is bubbllzz here???
if you..smile then wish you loads of luck..girlsmile
if not still wish you all the bestsmile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ritika bajaj - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 02:48 PM
  hey HG,

lol!!, no I'm not bubbles but was a bubbly bubble (TG Town).. tongueout

anyways, thank you so very much.

Ritika
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by elegant elegant - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 03:00 PM
  4) What about final year student's affidavit? ans - affidavit typed as per the performa and duly signed by college principal will be sufficient.


Could any1 plz explain what is this affidavit thing?? do we have to take it along with us on the test day?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Hungry Gadha! - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 03:17 PM
 

Oops!..still confuses me those two names!..
but yeah, BB... i meant you onlysmile...as i knew another *bubbles* is already busy with her mba!

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Varun Goenka - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 03:37 PM
  Hi TG,DT n other mates of the Gadha Family....

Had my slot for today mornin....d test went fine....abso NO GLITCHES...was very smooth...just that the initial waiting time is a bit too much....questions...same format n self- same difficulty level....

one thing specifically....after the test is over and you press the 'OK' button....a 'END TEST' button is seen on the screen...the proctors had strictly asked to avoid pressing it.After a couple f minutes another pop-up is generated in which you need to press 'OK' once again...this takes you back to the place whr ur pic ws....so hav patience after finishing the test....the next screen after the pic shows that u have logged off...then the test is complete....

my attempts:
DI- 17
VA- 16
QA- 17 or 18...dont remember exactly(1 silly mistake confirmed) sad

so...keeping the fngers crossed and waiting for results...

TG SIR...
WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE AND CHARGES FOR EXTENDING THE MEMBERSHIP IN CAT-CBT CLUB....ITS A GREAT PLACE...WANT TO BE A PART OF IT...DOESNT MATTER WHAT PERCENTILE I GET OR WHT COLL. I CONVERT... smile SOME SORT F A LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP...

Thanks to TG sir, DT mam and all gadha folks @CAT-CBT...

Regards,
Varun Goenka
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Stinger R - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 03:39 PM
  Although i ve been somewhat a regular reader of TG, i am more of a passive reader and dont really post much but seeing the kind of responses here on this thread makes me feel the need to post here.

Why is everyone grouping up against IIM, just coz they are under some problems we waste no time to degrade our heroes to zeroes.. I mean come on guys..
Same is the case with ppl getting offensive about TG and others in support of CAT.
I mean why are we even focussing our energies on something we do not have much control over.. rather we can discuss more mayb cut offs or possibilities of -ve marking or maybe how not to panic in case of problems in CAT.

Just hoping that instead of ranting on and on , all of us start discussing something useful.

On a different note , my cat is on 7th Dec and i can hardly wait to give it a shot , finally ;)
Best of luck to everyone.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ritika bajaj - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 03:46 PM
  @HG

hehe... ohhh.. so you still remember me (thank u thank u..  :D )

even i also got confused that "Bubbles" still giving CAT.. *Kitna Padhte hain log...phew*....hehe
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ashish kumar - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 04:01 PM
  My exam went fine although I have to face Avast anti virus while solving questions. Overall a nice experience and IIM's have designed the questions keeping in mind the difficulty, a student has to face while solving paper on computer.

And yes have a look at this:
 http://www.telegraphindia.com/1091202/jsp/frontpage/story_11811675.jsp
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Varun Goenka - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 04:46 PM
  @ashish-gosh!!lets see...wht is in store...wil b fair on part of those who were unable to give the test properly....

Varun
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 05:11 PM
  HI Abhinav,

I didn't know that you were a Tathagat student. I know ,I had not been very active in forums this year. All I would say is that a lot of other things have become a priority now. Thank you for sharing the experience and good luck for the results. smile

Hi Elegent - If you are a final year student, you have to carry an affidavit as an eligibility proof. Here is the cerificate: http://content.catiim.in/pdf/final_certi.pdf

You have to get it signed from a collge authority.

Hi Ritika- Good Luck. smile

Hi Varun- YOur membership would be active until 8th December. After that the fee if the same - $22 ,6 months membership- for the renewal. Thank you and ATB for the results. smile

Hi Rahul- Good Luck. smile

Hi Ashihs- ATB. smile

Dagny
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by shivansh tyagi - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 05:33 PM
 

HI TG sir,

One small question, does we need to click mark button after we select a ans , to save our response...

Plz reply soon.......

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Rajat Vashishta - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 05:41 PM
  he gadhas,
gave my cat today. 2nd dec-morning slot.
no glitches at my center at all!! cool

pattern was the same. 20-20-20. paper was of moderate-difficult level. QA and DI were manageable. VA was on the tougher side. (at least i felt so).

a calm head can save your day. my advice (which is a noun :P)- reach late.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Rajat Vashishta - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 05:45 PM
  hey shivnash, no you dont have to click the mark button everytime you select an ans!
please dont panic. there will be a 15 min tutorial. go through it and you will understand everything. so relax and wait for your turn.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by riki gupta - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 06:25 PM
  IIMs are the prestigious institution of India.They are trying to create a convenient system for CAT aspirants with assistant of "prometric".First time the computer based test system has been implemented for CAT and there may be some loopholes in system but we shouldn't make this a big issue.Why we people are destroying image of our prestigious institution?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 06:35 PM
  Lol Varun, abhi 6 months extend kar lo, jab MBA karne jaoge to ham free kar denge smile Good attempts btw. smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by prakash g - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 07:07 PM
  Guys..............

Got this link in mail....thought of sharing it with you all...

Tg,Dagny plz comment on this...

IIMs Said To Be In Discussions Over Conducting CAT 2009 Again



Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by shivam mehra - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 07:28 PM
  I M IN FINAL YEAR!!WUD FINAL YR CERTIficate be reqd during cat??

or college id/pan card/driving licence wud be enuff
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by mayank dixit - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 07:44 PM
 

 

According to a report in The Telegraph, Calcutta, the Directors of IIMs are considering scrapping this year’s online CAT and save face with a paper-based retest.

The story built on an anonymous IIM Director’s version reports that all IIM Directors except one are okay in principle with the proposal. As of now, no other source has confirmed the report and the report conflicts with the CAT Convenor’s that the computer-based test would continue. I quote from The Telegraph story:

“But IIM officials are arguing that their biggest fear revolves around questions that are already being raised about the standard of candidates picked through a selection process under criticism for its lack of uniformity.

Several candidates who could take the computerised test have complained that their computers ran slower than those of other competing candidates, placing them at a disadvantage in the timed test.”

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sachi bhat - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 07:44 PM
  Guys,
gave my test today..it was good. Nobody in my lab faced any kind of problems..Everything went on smoothly.

In total I made around 36-38 attempts.
There were two definite wrong questions in my paper. So be prepared to leave and move on to next problem if you dont get the answer present in the options.

Quant was easy and there were a few repeats from previous cat papers. Also some questions had clever trap in them. So make sure u read the question properly and fully.

DI was a bit calculation intensive. Lr seemed to be lengthy and had only 1 sub question.

VA: RC's were easy with 1 RC having only inference based questions.

Overall, I felt the paper was on a bit easier side.

P.S: make sure you solve previous cat papers. This will help u
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by deep sin - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 07:55 PM
  2 December 2009, 03:43pm IST


Online CAT is here to stay: IIM committee


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Online-CAT-is-here-to-stay-IIM-committee/articleshow/5292227.cms
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Ankit Bansal - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 07:57 PM
 

Hi TG Sir/All,

With CAT being comparatively easy this time,and students attempting so many Qs,What do you expect cut-off this time.

Regards

AspirantMBA

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by mayank dixit - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 08:01 PM
  IIM directors satement are above than admission committee.M keeping my fingers crossed.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by baavla bhoot - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 08:04 PM
  @ amit khetpal

Hi   Amit . ..thanks a ton for the reply ..regarding the matter of adding sir after TG ..there is a verb famous maxim in hindi " Jiski rahi bhavana JAisi ,Prabhu murat dekhi usne waisi " .....I regard TG sir not only as my mentor but as my respectable friend so out of love and respect i just called him TG (without adding sir ) .moreover i have become habitual in the corporate  world of addressing  seniors by their name and it sounds too obsiquous and servile also to use sir ....anyways if that hurts i will be mindful in future ...

Regards,
Akhil ( Bawla bhoot )

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Saurabh - confusion fused - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 08:30 PM
  @bhoot & Amit

I second bhoot with due respect to the TG Sir. When someone calls other one by name, it doesn't necessarily mean disrespect. And as bhoot said, in corporate world calling some senior with Sir or something like that is actually considered unprofessional. I had a tough time habbituating to call the director of my client account with his name! He was 56 years old with the designation and salary I can only dream about. He explained me why it is that people should be called by their first names..regardless of age, designation and blah blah things. This scenario is very differrent from what it is here, but the point I want to make is "respect" is something emotional and it resides in heart and should not by judged by the name what one calls other. We all do respect you dear TG sir.

Regards,
Saurabh
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Enchilada LNU - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 08:50 PM
  Hi Sir,

I paid for the Geometry E-Book and got Number system in my mailbox. I mailed to admin@totalgadha.com .but nobosy has yet replied or sent the correct E-Book. I bought Number System 5 months ago already. I am desperately waiting for the book as I would be preparing for other exams as well. I am sending one more mail today. Thanks in advance.

---Enchilada
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by shivansh tyagi - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 08:58 PM
  Hey had any one read the Open letter By T.I.M.E directors to IIMs, its on TIME homepage.............its really horrifying.......
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by CATster . - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 09:01 PM
 
CAT paper test on table

New Delhi, Dec. 1: The Indian Institutes of Management are considering a proposal to scrap the computerised Common Admission Test (CAT) midway and resurrect the pen-and-paper examination to select students afresh for the coming academic session.

The directors of the seven IIMs are discussing a proposal to scrap the glitch-plagued computerised test that has proved embarrassing, institute sources have told The Telegraph.

“We are under serious discussions to see whether scrapping the computerised test midway will help us regain some of the confidence generally associated with CAT,” the director of one of the IIMs said.

The proposal — put forward today by a director at a meeting of the institute heads — has been accepted “in principle” by most directors as the “best damage-control option”.

But at least one director expressed reservations over scrapping the computerised test, the sources said. The director said the IIMs should persist with the computerised test this year.

His concerns reflect worries among a section of the organisers that scrapping the computerised test mid-way would be tantamount to an admission of failure.

The IIMs have a five-year contract with Prometric — the US-headquartered testing service provider — and not utilising the company’s services this year could be construed as a waste of funds.

The institutes are likely to take the final decision over the next couple of days, the sources said, following which the directors will inform Prometric.

The IIMs have only once before re-conducted CAT — in 2003, when law enforcement agencies found that the test paper had been leaked. The test was held again within three months.

The proposal under consideration of the IIM directors does not involve discarding the computerised test option for the future — the format will be used next year.

Rescheduling CAT in a pen-and-paper avatar will mean that all students who have appeared for the computerised test which started on Saturday will have to reappear.

About 37,000 of the 45,000 candidates scheduled to take the test between Saturday and Monday did complete the computerised test. The remaining 8,000 students could not take the test because of the glitches. Six more days are left in the 10-day window.

But IIM officials are arguing that their biggest fear revolves around questions that are already being raised about the standard of candidates picked through a selection process under criticism for its lack of uniformity.

Several candidates who could take the computerised test have complained that their computers ran slower than those of other competing candidates, placing them at a disadvantage in the timed test.

Questions have also been asked if it is fair for some students to be forced to take the test a second time when others need not. Most students who could not take the test because of the glitches have not yet been told when their computerised test will be rescheduled.

Top
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by mayank dixit - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 09:03 PM
 

Is difficulty level rising day by day.I wrote my exam morning batch (pune). i found the quant level at par level with Previous CAT exams...Comments plz..40+ is nt an easy task in coming days.

My advice is not to concentrate on  attempting any how 40 +.

 

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 09:10 PM
  Hi Mayank,

No it's not true. I think questions are coming from a database and it depends which questions your test picks up.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Enchilada LNU - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 09:28 PM
  Sir I am waiting for the Geometry E-book. Days are passing by fast. Please help me out. The details are in the scrap 2 scraps above. I have dropped a mail to admin@totalgadha as well.

Thanks
Enchilada.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ritika bajaj - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 09:41 PM
  @Shivansh

I've just gone through that letter.... it is really a horrendous one.

Ritika
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amit kheterpal - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 09:42 PM
  @saurabh big bro and akhil big bro i respect your feelings .if i have hurted anybdy iam extremely sorry..
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amit kheterpal - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 09:48 PM
 

Frequently Asked Questions

CAT 2009 – Rescheduling of Candidates

  1. I've heard that Prometric is rescheduling candidates. Is that true?

    Some testing labs have been experiencing technical difficulties mainly due to viruses and malware. Prometric is continually assessing these labs and should testing not be possible for any session at specific labs (note that there could be several labs within one test centre and this is referred to as 'Site Code' on your Admit Card), affected candidates will be contacted by SMS and email. Rescheduling of these candidates will then be done and new appointments communicated again via SMS and email.


  2. How will I know if my test will be rescheduled?

    Affected candidates will be contacted by SMS and email should their original appointment need to be rescheduled. Candidates are advised to check their SMS and email messages prior to going to the test centre.


  3. My friend is scheduled on the same day, same time and same test centre as me. He/she received a notification that he/she should not go to the test centre and will be rescheduled. I have not received any SMS or email. Should I still go to the test centre?

    There could be several labs within the same test centre and this is reflected on your Admit Card as 'Site Code'. If your lab is affected, you will receive an SMS and email from CAT Candidate Care. If not, please turn up at your test centre as scheduled.


  4. I am scheduled to take the test at a lab that is currently closed. Will my test still take place as scheduled?

    Prometric has deployed additional technicians and hardware to rectify the issues at impacted sites. If the lab at which you are scheduled is not able to deliver the CAT on the day of your scheduled appointment, you will be contacted by SMS and email the day before. If you do not receive any notification, please proceed to your test centre as scheduled.


  5. When will I receive my revised appointment?

    As soon as we know that you are not able to test on your original date/time, Candidate Care will begin the rescheduling process. You will be contacted as soon your new appointment has been scheduled; however this could take up to 48 hours.


  6. Will I have a choice of slot?

    Rescheduled slots will be limited. You will be allocated the best available slot and the priority would be to keep your appointment at the same test location. Candidate Care will try and accommodate any requests for changes where possible. Please do not send an email, you must ring Candidate Care on 1800 103 9293 and speak to an agent.


  7. Will I be scheduled to take the CAT before 7 December?

    We will try to reschedule all affected candidates within this year's testing window.


  8. According to reports, IIMs have indicated that the testing could extend beyond 7 December. Is this true? When will a decision be made?

    We will try and accommodate all candidates within this year's testing period. If there is a need to extend beyond 7 December, IIMs will announce this as soon as a decision has been made.


  9. Is it likely that I will be rescheduled to test the next day?

    Prometric will allocated the best available slot to affected candidates and it is possible this could be as early as the next day. Candidates are advised to stay contactable by phone and email at all times.


  10. What can I do if my revised schedule clashes with another exam?

    Every reasonable effort will be made to accommodate any requests for changes. Candidates may call 1800 103 9293 for such requests. Please do not send an email, you must ring Candidate Care and speak to an agent.


  11. I was told that I will be informed of my new scheduled within 48 hours but I have yet to receive any SMS or email. What can I do?

    If you do not receive your new schedule, you may contact Candidate Care at 1800 103 9293.


  12. I was told my test has been rescheduled to a certain day but my name was not there when I get there. What should I do?

    You should contact Candidate Care at 1800 103 9293.


  13. Will I be able to change my testing location to another city?

    Every reasonable effort will be made to accommodate any requests for changes. Candidates may call 1800 103 9293 for such requests. Please do not send an email, you must ring Candidate Care and speak to an agent.


  14. Will I be allowed to take the test with my old Admit Card?

    Yes. You will receive an email confirmation of your new appointment. However, if you do not receive a new Admit Card, you will be allowed to test with the old one.


  15. If I have successfully taken my test and I have received a new test date and time through email/SMS, should I go to take the test again?

    No. In case you have taken the test successfully, kindly ignore the email/SMS sent to you.


  16. I am a DA candidate and understand that only 3 December is the only day scheduled for us. What happens if my testing lab goes down on the day? Will I get to test this year?

    Prometric Candidate Care will ensure that you are accommodated to the best available slot and priority would be to keep your appointment at the same test location. If you do get rescheduled, please bring along the assistive devices that you have been approved for, on your new date/time and/or new test centre

source:-www.catiim.in

thankyou..smile

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Varun Goenka - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 10:00 PM
  @DT mam- thnx for d info and for the wishes... smile wanted to know if the extension of CAT-CBT will provide us aid for GD/PI as well...

@TG Sir- thnx...toh deal pakka... smile wil try my best to cling to d free offer... smile

Regards,
Varun Goenka
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by shivansh tyagi - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 10:38 PM
 

hi,

hey can smone plz tell me , will they provide sharpner nd eraser ...nd if nt wht to do once ur pencil worn out...and wht is the logic behinde tht we r not allowed to carry watches ...I knw the test screen has timer but still there r other things to be tracked

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Nish nishu - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 10:49 PM
 

My first post out of utter curiosity...

@Shivansh --> other things like???

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by shivansh tyagi - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 11:08 PM
 

@nishu nishu

nthng like out of wrld ....just feel cmfrtable with my watch....

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Rajeev Raghu - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 11:44 PM
  Hi TG,

Has your exam been rescheduled ?

@ others -

1) After pressing review button, if I dont want to select any qn and wanna go back to where I was , is there any X button to close it ?

2) Is there any icon to highlight ? As in, in MS word there is an icon at the top tool bar right. Something similar ??
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Shrey Sagar Sharma - Wednesday, 2 December 2009, 11:55 PM
  An open letter to the Directors of the IIMs
(Sent as an email)
2nd December 2009

Dear Sirs,

The IIMs have a well-deserved reputation for being the best B-Schools in the country. A seat in the IIMs is coveted by lakhs of MBA aspirants. This puts tremendous responsibility on the IIMs to ensure that students are given a fair chance to get into the IIMs – not only should it be fair and transparent, it should also be seen to be so.

Till last year, when the CAT was a paper & pencil test, there were hardly any complaints from students. However, the various happenings in the current scenario of online/computerised CAT and the way the IIMs have handled the issue is making many students feel that the exam has not been fair to them. And the reputation and the credibility that the CAT exam has – and more importantly the IIMs have – are crumbling.

There are a few issues that are bothering students no end, and the response from the IIMs is leaving them disappointed and confused. The main issues that are causing a lot of angst among the students are given in below:

Cancellation of test slots causing huge uncertainty in the minds of students apart from a lot of inconvenience.

Improper guidance about the test interface (END button on REVIEW screen and deselecting an answer already marked) leading to premature submission of the test for a number of students – for no fault of theirs.

Inadequately trained invigilators causing problems like disturbance to test-takers while taking the test.

Bugs in the testing software leading to some students getting extra time for the test. In an exam where every minute makes a difference in scores and percentiles, this means that some students are getting a huge unfair advantage over others.

Problems with the testing interface leading to some answer choices not being visible in some cases.

Unacceptably poor levels of invigilation leading to examination malpractices including copying – as reported by a number of students.

Questions being apparently repeated from one exam slot to another – as reported by a large number of students who have already taken the test. This is extremely unfair to those who took the exam on the first few days.

The above issues have led to a situation where some students seem to have got an unfair advantage over others.

Also, there is a lack of confidence among the test-takers in the current process making them wonder whether the answers they marked would have been captured properly. This is creating new doubts about the sanctity of the test results that are expected to be declared on the 22nd of January 2010. The fact that some students who have already taken the test have been called by Prometric and asked to take the test again is only creating huge fear in the minds of all students.

In light of the above, we believe that the computerised CAT should be cancelled for this year – and a paper & pencil test be conducted in its place. This will do justice to all people who have suffered because of the problems faced by them with the computerised CAT. After a series of more thorough dry runs, computerised CAT can be reintroduced next year after solving various problems that are currently plaguing the computerised CAT.

We earnestly request you and strongly urge you to take a decision at the earliest to restore the reputation of the CAT and the IIMs and to do justice to the aspirants of CAT2009.

Thanking you,

P.VISWANATH
Director,
T.I.M.E.
(on behalf of its students and thousands of other students)
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by charles M - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 12:10 AM
  Really a great work has been done by Time director to bring justice to CAT 2009 aspirants....

I have taken my CAT exam, i have done well,but i need a fair competition, not the one which is happening now.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Raveesh Pandhija - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 12:52 AM
  Hello all,

In the middle of all Speculation, drama and anxiety..I wrote my CAT 09 today...

To my surprise, Prometric and NIIT guys are doing an awesome job..excellent work indeed..

Imp: Don't trust forums post about Review Button, Marked Button, Quit, End Test ... everything is working fine, as per CAT demo.. no technical fault at my center.. u can move to any question using review button, u can mark, unmark everything...

Pls don't speculate unnecessarily..

Raveesh
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Deepak Gautam - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 02:47 AM
  @TG: Thanks for sharing your views T.G, I personaly wnat to thank you for what u have writen to support the CAT,and mind you guys cat 2010 will also be computer based so forget about 2009 gonna cancel anyway stuff!! ...#
#

One thing ; Those who are making hue and cry about cat 2009 and its computer based edition are not the ones who have prepared for months for cat , but those who have not, cuz those who have, got nothing to worry , they can face anything that come there way!easy questions,tough questions,repetitive questions ,strange questions,150 questions ,Paper cat ,Online cat, cat on Moon , cat on mars...blah blah.
PS: I am writing this 4 days prior to my cat exam !2009!

#
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by tanmoy laskar - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 07:20 AM
  Gave my cat 09 exam on 2nd dec,3:30 pm.The exam went on smoothly & Prometric ppl managed it excellently.All buttons are working fine.And personally i feel the interface was very user friendly.I only had one problem.One of the questions had a wrong option.Else everything went on perfectly.Those of you who will be giving the exam in the coming days- dont worry about the confusion and fuss that has been created all around.It isnt as bad as it sounds.Secondly everywher its being written that the exam is pretty easy and "snap level" paper.Dont go to the centre with this idea in your mind.Its still CAT.Keep your cool and will you do fine.All the best.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 09:49 AM
  @deepak gautam: not every can write the test on the last day and be happy about how it has gone about for the previous 9 days smile

pretty much foolhardiness to close your eyes and sit.
look around credible news sources, you will know what's happening.

not even all iim directors on the same foot! who are we then?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by elegant elegant - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 09:52 AM
  'Hi Elegent - If you are a final year student, you have to carry an affidavit as an eligibility proof. Here is the cerificate: http://content.catiim.in/pdf/final_certi.pdf

You have to get it signed from a collge authority.'

Dagny ma'am could u plz onfirm whether we want to have the affidavit while taking the test, because it isn't mentioned anywhere on catiim website. I suppose we have to take only admit card, voucher, & one identification proof like driving license. Plz confirm.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by - SK - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 11:03 AM
  Hi all,

Firstly, I thank everyone for presenting such wonderful insights;
I have taken CAT on 1st Dec 2nd slot; I felt that the online exam was really much better than the paper based in all respects except the content; It went smooth hassle-free and without any uproar that I expected from reviewing all the forums;

However the questions lack the previous intensity and were not fully foolproof. There is one question in DI wherein first few lines give irrelevant data with respect to the Table ( It seemd to me like really weird of CAT standards ); similarly there are few absurd things in Quant which I do not want to comment right now(complying to NDA :P)

Though I have fared the exam well(repent for the few mistakes I did in jitters) but I am not satisfied fully; One thing I can bet that anyone who prepared from reading all the invaluable articles in TG will surely crack the exam to the fullest.. (15 15 15 is quite easily achievable, which makes me feel more anxious of my stand in this CAT race :P)

Thanks a lot TG Sir !
Truly indebted to you forever

-SK
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by nupur arora - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 11:30 AM
  TG,

There was no image displayed in 4 questions in data interpretation. These 4 qs were based on  a man hour table that I could not see as the image could not be displayed.Hence, I could not attempt these questions. There were only a few more students who faced a similar problem though not in the same questions. On demanding a written note claiming the same, they refused it out-rightly saying that IIM people have been informed and they would do somthing about it. TG, What am I supposed to do in that case?? Is there anything I can do apart from waiting for the results and hoping for the best
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by tarun jain - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 12:06 PM
  i also have the problem as elegant has...

kindly get it confirmed asap
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sonal singh - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 12:43 PM
 

hi there,

i have given my cat paper. it was goodsmile. i reached the centre on time and was told that the probability that our paper will commence on scheduled time of 1st slot was 10%tongueout. they had problems with password sad. but they were trying their level best. at 10:00 our exam did not start and candidates started losing paitenceangry.it was then that a prometric staff came out and told us that our exam will not take palce and that it would be reshuffled for some of the candidates on the same day and for the rest next day.after waiting for around one hour he came out with a list send to him from head office.these candidates(i was amongst themsmile) were taken in  and then finally we started our exam at around 1:45pm. but let me tell you guys,the staff was extremely helpful and polite and helped us at every step right from entering into hall till giving us passwords.smile   

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Anand Sengupta - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 12:34 PM
 

Everybody seems to be having a 'cakewalk' CAT this year, isn't it( in terms of questions)? Almost all are able to attempt 40+ /60. GREAT!!!! A thing as such really unheard of in previous CATs.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by nautie techie - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 12:37 PM
  Hello friends...
After reading all the posts here , its my turn now to write my experience..

I had my exam in the second slot at Silicon Institute of Technology, Bhubaneswar.The security guards allowed us inside the main gate exactly at 1:30 pm by giving us a form to fill our details. Then their was the usual check of admit card,identification etc etc before they allowed us to enter the lab. They gave us a pouch with a number to keep all our items and rest assure that these things would remain safe with them. Once we were inside the lab they took our fingerprints and photographs and assigned us our computer.All this took hardly 5 minutes for each candidate. We were seated in our places before 2:15 pm so we had a lot of time to kill before the exam.


MY ATTEMPTS:
qa-around 15 di-around 10 va-16

 MY EXPERIENCE:
GREAT !!
Everything went smoothly in my lab..Proctors were nice and helpful

SOME SURPRISES ATLEAST FOR ME:

-That people started their exam at different time(in the range of 5 10 minutes). I started first and it made me a bit nervous since every candidate started looking at me!!

-Single reasoning sets: Be prepared for these puys..Single caselet questions are being asked in all the slots..



SOME ADVICE:

-Go to the washroom 30 minutes prior to the exam. They allow candidates to go outside till 3 pm(as my exam started at 3:30)

- You have to sit in the chair for more than 1 hour before the exam starts, so just please dont stare at the computer and sit quietly closing your eyes..

- Do read the tutorial properly even if you know about all the buttons.

- Listen to what the proctors say and ask even the silliest doubts to them.


MY PERSONAL ANALYSIS:

VERBAL - Comprehensions were ok..Language was simple..Some questions were direct and some were inferential..Just maintain your concentration while attempting the questions as the options might seem close..
Grammar was also AVERAGE... I say this because some parajumbles were damn easy while some were passage completion questions were tricky


REASONING/DI - My nemesis in this CAT . I can safely say that it was the trickiest section of CAT simply due to the single reasoning questions present...Try to read all the reasoning questions properly before attempting them..These questions can be answered but all of them require a bit of time..so choose the lr sets wisely..And please please practice the Lr sets of CAT 1999 AND 2000..Trust me it would be useful..
DI was calculative with big and confusing tables. In one set the figure was not very clear so I had to leave that set completely . Be prepared for these confusing tables as well...Their was a simple piechart question as well...
DS questions were the most easy questions of this section and I would suggest you that if you find LR questions difficult to comprehend , do all DS questions. One word of caution though..Dont make silly errors in DS(Like I did..)..They might look very easy but do go through all the options


QUANT - As in all the papers of different slots , it was the easiest section. Well not that easy like MAT or Campus Selection questions, but definitely easier than CAT 2007 and 2006..
Some were real sitters(5 questions), some could be answered with options(around 5), some basic questions i.e direct application of theory(around 5), tricky questions (around 5)..
Dont leave any topics(including permutations and combinations ) ..Just revise the basics and you can answer quant questions..


SOME MORE INFORMATION:

- Be prepared for questions whose answer might not be in the options. Its happening in all the slots and same was the case in my slot too... 2 LR questions were controversial and a Quant question didnt had the answer in the option..

- Dont go with a pre decided strategy that you would be doing more number of questions especially in DI/LR. Be accurate with your answers.

- You must be aware of the mark button , Mark all those question which you want to have a look later on. When you hit the review button thrs this button called REVIEW MARKED. When you click on that question it will show you only questions which you have marked,irrespective of the section so you dont have to jump from one section to the other.. (For example you have marked 2 qns in quant and 3 from di..when you click the
REVIEW MARKED button it will only show you those 5 questions consecutively )

Thats it from my side..Best of luck to all TGites and hope that you all do well. (PLEASE PRAY FOR ME TOO !!)
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dignified Madness - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 01:19 PM
  "One thing ; Those who are making hue and cry about cat 2009 and its computer based edition are not the ones who have prepared for months for cat , but those who have not, cuz those who have, got nothing to worry , they can face anything that come there way!easy questions,tough questions,repetitive questions ,strange questions,150 questions ,Paper cat ,Online cat, cat on Moon , cat on mars...blah blah.
PS: I am writing this 4 days prior to my cat exam !2009!"


Mr Deepak Gautam

Mind your language before making stupid, illogical and sweeping statements. CAT is such a competitive exam and losing even 5 minutes can be ur nemesis. The procters at my centre were not only untrained, but also lacked the basic common sense of keeping their mouths shut while the exam was on. I was made to leave my seat thrice, so that they cud reach the guy sitting at the end of the row. They even made a call to candidate care right from the examination hall.

In case u have doubts regarding my seriousness, I got a 98+ percentile in both CAT and XAT last year. Perhaps u wont understand the competition. The Gautams have been blessed with the gift of SC reservations...U just need to get an 80 percentile to get an iim call...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Anand Sengupta - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 01:37 PM
  Well said DM.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by New Donky don - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 01:49 PM
  fully agree Man ( DM)  dis is the reality of our nation which we have to accept thru out the LIfe & good thing is we can do nothing
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Pallav Jain - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 01:56 PM
  hiii nautie techie !!!!

many many thanks for an awesome analysis, suggestions and ya ofcourse for ur wishes. may u have a rocking life ahaed
gud luck for the results.smile

Pallav Jain
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by viral viral - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 02:22 PM
  Hi All,

I had my exam at College Of Engg, Pune(aka COEP) on 3rd dec morning slot. I reached at 8:30AM and Exam started at 10:00AM.

My Atteampts:
DI - 17 or 18
Qaunt 11 -12
VA 11-12

Difficulty level:
DI Easy
VA Moderate
Quant Moderate

My Expriance:
Not that great. !!!!!!!!



Mouse is not working properly so asked to replace it. After mouse got replace, I could not be able to login to my system, after 4-5 attempts I had logged in to my system. For 30 mins everything worked fine, suddenly person next to me pressed "End Button" and was arguing with invigilator which disturbed me for 2-3 mins.  After that everything else is going very smoothly. Invigilators are also very co-operative. Systems are working fine.

My advice:
DOn't get irritated if some minor problems are coming. I think because of all this minor disturbance, I had got irritated else could have attemt 3-4 more questions.
And last but not the least, Dont press the "End button".

All the best for exam.

Regards,
Viral B
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by miss alien - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 02:32 PM
  TG plz help.
  I lost my CAT voucher in traveling while coming to pune to take the test.I am appearing for the test tomorrow.so will the authorities at the test center will let me in to take the test without the voucher? I am having the soft copy or xerox copy of the voucher. plz reply as early as possible. thanks..
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dipak Haridas - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 02:35 PM
  thnx nautie techie...

that's really helpful...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 02:47 PM
  Hi Miss alien,

I think the xerox copy should do. Go and speak to the proctors at your center.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dipak Haridas - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 02:56 PM
  hi  miss...
while it is mentioned that u need to carry admit card, voucher and one photo id
it is also mentioned that "Candidates will not be permitted to take the test if photo identification and Admit Card is not presented." (i.e. no direct mention of voucher), so i think they'll consider ur case, but  not sure..

You should contact Candidate Care at 1800 103 9293...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Saurabh - confusion fused - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 03:29 PM
  @Dignified Madness:

Dear friend, let this place continue to be a fountain of knowledge and good relationships. I agree to what your views are but there is a way to express views without disrespecting others. It is not anyone's fault that he/she is born in a section of society which has reservations in education in India. You should not blame anyone but the corrupt politicians who play vote bank politics. I have many friends from OBC and other categories who are not happy about the recent increase in reservations...there is always other side of the coin dear. Show a degree of maturity, you are going to be an IIM passout and a responsible citizen of this country. Your conscience should command you to take your words back.  It was not he who made the reservations in education right?

Good luck for your CAT, I'm sure your hard work will sprout delicious fruits for you!smile

And again, let this place continue to be a fountain of knowledge and good relationships.

Peace!
Saurabh
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Hank Rearden - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 03:55 PM
 

Hello everyone,

December! what better month in the year than this, the month of love and joy, to answer the King of all MBA entrance exams. And what better way to answer an exam than to believe in yourself, to trust your ability and to enjoy the moment when you are competing with one of the best. That's attitude! The news goes that some had undue advantage because of the glitches but what are they who need to resort to such a chance against you who have your skill to back you up. Go with the right  attitude. This is the key to success. ALL THE BEST.

Dear TG and Dagny, thanks a million. Yours is an amazing site. There are many like me who have gained immensely from this site in ways of concepts and practice. It is quite probable that I continue to use this site in future for the sheer pleasure of mental exercise. Thanks once again.

Best regards,

Hank Rearden.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by New Donky don - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 04:28 PM
 
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Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ritika bajaj - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 05:10 PM
  Hi TG

Finally met with that special CAT after whom the "mouses" of the whole country are, now a daystongueout. CAT is really a beauty man!... I enjoyed giving it. smile

So, I was all set to leave for my center at 6:30 and then came the first surprise to me. Our car was not in a mood to go anywhere today. Dad tried a hell lotsa time to convince it and make it ready to move a bit, but it has all its mood set to rest today. So, finally we lost, and then my poor dad had to borrow the BIKE (itni thand mein) from our neighbors. Again we were ready to leave and this time we did. While meeting the smooth traffic we reached our destination (GNIT,Gr Noida). Anyways, at 8:15 we ( a huge crowd) started to enter. By next 10 min i was in my hall. after all the photo clicking and finger print scanning ( i don't know for what), they told me sit on my computer. When i switched on the system it was proved that i have done the registration process till now very properly and I'm allowed to give this test as my photo appeared on the screen( I was happy ). After putting all the passwords to start the test, the proctors instructed us to start the tutorials and in between they "ordered" us to NOT to press the 4 keys, as follows:
1. Mark
2. Review
3. Quit
4. Quit Test ( which i did not find till the end)
 
Now something about the paper. People were calling it a stupid paper, but i found it interesting. It was a moderate one, not so easy, not that difficult.
Quant was the easiest of all. the only thing you need to know is your formulas and some basic tricks, and you are the master of this section. DI was bit calculative but much easier than all last year papers. English was not that difficult but yes!, there IIMs showed that "CAT IS NOT THAT SIMPLE BABY!!!"

there was no glitch at all in my hall. The only bad thing happened to me during the exam was I had 61 questions to attempt with the options of 60 questions. ( I knew the answer for the one they did not provide me the options..humph.. )

In total attempted 40 questions (out of 61). And ya they provided the pencils and erasers to all of us ( for you Shivansh)

Enjoyed this day to the fullest.

all the best to all who are yet to go.

do well guyz

Ritika
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amit jain - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 05:13 PM
 

Aha !! Finally got over  smile ... Amid all the speculations and brouhaha on various forums, I was little tensed about the test environment at the centre but it went really smooth. No glitches whatsoever.

QA was definitly of moderate difficulty though there were 4-5 sitters(thats there in all the previous CAT papers). Atleast for me it doesnt fall in to an easy section.

VA was definitely tricky, they have touched almost all the areas. Questions though seems easy but be careful while attempting smile..

DI is same as mentioned in all other posts. LR was really time consuming but there were 2 DI sets which are kinda easy. Try to attempt DI as chances of getting it correct is more ........

Attempted overall 42 -44 out of 60. ...

ALL THE BEST

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Raghav Kanala - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 05:36 PM
  Dear TG Sir and Madam,

I am writing this mail exclusively for both of you.
I gave my CAT today.
I am now searching for that soul who told me to join this site.
Woh farishta tha ya Sonpari.
I don't know.But i am indeed blessed.
Let me tell u how my cat was.The centre was good.
For that matter it was one centre at kolkata that created heavy problems on first two days.
They indeed rectified things.
Centre staff was well informed and well behaved.
As was for the test, it was a 20-20-20 cricket match.
Pitch was meant for fast runs, if u have known one dayers.
My analysis of earlier matches was beneficial!
I made 17 attempts in QA & VA.
DI was Easy to moderate.But LR was Creaking.Made 12-13 attempts.nine sure right.rest no idea.
I am already weak in that, but thank god there were questions, meant for people like me.
I dont know about my CAT result.How good it will be?
But I convey my hearfelt thanks and gratitude to TG sir and Madam. I had tremendous pressure on my work front.
I would not get time some days to open this site.All that i would do was, Open the site and click on Total Gadha. refer only the posts made my sir. I advise my friends on this site to follow only what the teachers have to say. I am not pushing aside others point of view.Have faith taht what TG sir says will work! Atleast it worked for me.I am not a super hero.
If it can be for me then , why not for you?
I have introduced Tg to several of my friends and made new friends on TG also.I am thankful to each of them too.
sir! kindly extend my membership till the end of CAT.After that, i my self will renew my CAT CBT membership.

As for Scrapping CAT, let us do our best, let IIms decide that.
When I go to IIM , then i will decide.
Till then
All the best to all my friends on TG site.

Regards
Raghav
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dipak Haridas - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 06:26 PM
  hi ritika...
have the same center, i.e GNIT GR. NOIDA,
never heard before , so will visit on 4th only, as  my CAT is on 5th..
btw, how's center overall ? i mean.. infrastructure ,facilities and proctors...
anybody having any issues with their systems?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 06:54 PM
  Hi Ritika, Amit and Raghav,

Thank you for sharing your experiences. smile


Raghav,

Have extended your membership till 8th Dec,2009.

Dagny
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 06:57 PM
  smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by M!N$ .. - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 07:35 PM
  @nautie techie
It would b really helpful if u could forward me the detailed solutions for CAT1999 and 2000 if u have dem.I have tried to find dem on all the sites but didnt help
My email id is - mins2185@gmail.com
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by divya gera - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 09:13 PM
 

Hi TG!

I missed my CAT attempt coz i was suffering from viral fever..sad Can anything be done about it?

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amit kheterpal - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 09:27 PM
 

hii TGsir/DAGNY mam ..

iam not able to login in cbt club could you please extend my membership period till 8th december ..please..

thankyou..smile

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dipak Haridas - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 09:29 PM
  hi ..nautie techie

mark a copy to me also
id: astral21@gmail.com

thanking you

Dipak
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ced rik - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 09:36 PM
  Hi Miss Alien,

I had lost my voucher and pay-in-slip both. I took a photocopy of the pay-in-slip with me to the exam and they let me take the test.
So I think you should be fine.

Good luck.

Ced
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Ankesh Grover - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 09:46 PM
  ok some has to help me out here.....i gave my cat paper on 1st december....the paper went without any issues...
and today i get this mail from prometric


"Dear Candidate,

Thank you for scheduling for CAT 2009.

Due to technical related issues, the seat you were scheduled for was closed. We regrettably have rescheduled your CAT 2009 test. An email and sms text will be sent to you with your appointment details. If you have not received this in 24 hours, please contact our CAT Candidate Service helpline.

It is not necessary to bring an updated admit card, you can take your old admit card with you to the testing center. Seats are currently very limited and may not be available in the city you wish to test, however, if the rescheduled date/time is not suitable to you, please contact our CAT Candidate Service helpline at 1-800-103-9293. Please do not send an email through the webform. You must speak to a CAT Candidate Service Representative.

We regret the inconvenience caused to you.

Sincerely,
CAT Candidate Care Support
Prometric Testing Pvt. Ltd.
http://www.prometric.com/iim-cat/contactus
"

Anyone has any clue what this is supposed to mean...I mean you gotta be kidding me!!!
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by mayank dixit - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 09:56 PM
 

Latest News:

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/services/education/IIMs-to-take-decision-on-online-CAT-after-Dec-7/articleshow/5296854.cms

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Vickram Asokan - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 10:16 PM
  Dear fellow Gadhas,

Gave CAT on Dec 2. My friend and I traveled a distance of around 25 kms from the heart of the city (Chennai) to reach the testing centre. They did not allowed my friend since he brought his Colour Xerox of his Driving License. They say it was not acceptable. Even traffic constables accept that as a license( What these guys from Prometric need. A letter from President stating we are citizens ?? ) After long arguments, he gave up and asked some of his friends near his  home to bring his PAN Card. He traveled some 15 kms and the rest 10 ( thanks to his pal ). He reached at 9:55 AM and asked to start the exam at 10 am.

He was really tensed and screwed up the exam high time. So, plz beware and carry original identity proof. Its better to carry more than one ( to be on the safer side ).

Hope this helps... Take care. Bubye.

-Vickram.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by nupur arora - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 10:20 PM
  Dagny and TG,

I want your suggestions. There was no image displayed in 4 questions in data interpretation. These 4 qs were based on  a man hour table that I could not see as the image could not be displayed.Hence, I could not attempt these questions. There were only a few more students who faced a similar problem though not in the same questions. On demanding a written note claiming the same, they refused it out-rightly saying that IIM people have been informed and they would do somthing about it. TG, What am I supposed to do in that case?? Is there anything I can do apart from waiting for the results and hoping for the best
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by charles M - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 10:27 PM
  I gave my CAT on December 2nd. i faced trivial issue when compared to most others the issue i faced was,i was not allowed to take the exam,yes intially i was not allowed to take the exam.The Proctor rejected my photo identification saying face differs from the ID card proof.
I showed my PAN card(original) he rejected it by saying photo on the card is not clear.

I showed my Licence (original)he rejected it by saying photo on the licence doesn wear a spectacles where as you are wearing it.

Atlast, i showed my expired college ID, since i am passed out and working now he rejected it by saying it was very old (taken in 2002)

Three identification to prove myself as i am the one failed.i was shocked,nervous and just 1 hour remaining for commencement of exam. luckily i came across a professor who took have taken class for me,yes the reason being i took my exam in my college where studied (2002-2006) he too was a proctor in conducting CAT.he vouched for my identity and atlast i was in.does every student would have same amount of luck. i dont think so.

I am writing this post not to blame the proctor, after all its his duty but you be prepared to take proof that no one can disagree on.



Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sayantan Mandal - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 10:42 PM
  @ Ankesh Grover

I got the same mail too buddy.... i had taken the test at Hyderabad on Dec 2nd and there were no technical glitches whatsoever... everything went fine..... and today evening i got the same mail as yours.......
did you speak to the Candidate care about this????
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by mayank dixit - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 10:58 PM
 

Finally NDTV(24*7) A news channel started a good show:

A GD cum  discusion : CAT 2009 students and  IIM Admission head satish deodhar.

Show just fnished with Head being Unanswerable.But being  apart of that show he has done a gud work.

Thanks.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Saurabh - confusion fused - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 11:11 PM
  Divya,

Felt bad...really felt bad. There are some things that are not in our hands..you should be mature enough to understand this. But there are some...

Forget the past..lets see what can be done now. Write a mail to the Prometric and IIMs. Write to every email id which have been provided to us in case of any emergency issues etc. Explain your case. In the meantime rush to your doctor and get a letter from him stating that you are weak and you are not medically fit to attend the test, stamped and signed. If the stamp doesn't have his registration number tell him to write it and sign (my dad's doc so i know the importance of the reg.no.). Take this to the prometric center people and request them to reschedule your test. They are rescheduling the test for thousands of people all over the country..after 7th Dec. Ask them to grant you a slot in that process. Just as they didn't know that technology is gonna give them a slap, you also didn't know that you are gonna fall ill on 3rd dec!

Viral fever can be cured in less than 20 hours. You just have to be healthy for a few hours..you can fall ill after the test. Take the painkillers and dont worry about any sideeffects...you need just 3-4hours..thats it!

And first of all, give an electric shock to your brain..and sow some seeds of hope. Otherwise you are not going to give your CAT this year.

All I know is, every possible attempt, seemingly futile, but which may allow you to attempt of CAT2009 is better than just sitting quiet!!!

At this moment I remember some words of the U.S.President from the movie Independence day, when he speaks to the pilots who are about to attack the aliens, with zero hope...... - " We are not gonna go into the night,....without a fight!"

Dont forget to post your attempt and experience of CAT2009.

Warm Regards,
Saurabh





Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by vikash kumar - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 11:28 PM
  gave my test and it was perfect ,everything was so good.in a paper test you can not imagine such facilities,test should be online and people having a problem should be given another test, those who gave in perfect conditions should not be allowed more chance. one of my friend who did not perform well trying to fill net with as many post as possible trying to convince everyone that exam should be cancelled.it should not be ,only people who had some problem should be given one more chance ,people have complain others getting more time then complain with details just do not quote from some net forum.
people whose exam went smooth are not on forums that much it does not mean its fully bad, my center was r v college of engineering ,bangalore and it was perfect.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arun kumar - Thursday, 3 December 2009, 11:30 PM
  Hi everyone!
Just wanted to thank TG Sir n Mam ...i am going through notes provided by this amazing site...i have been a member here for more than 1.5 yrs...but could nevr thank these helpful peple for their noble endeavor....
TG rocks!
all the best folks!
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Ranjit Menon - Friday, 4 December 2009, 12:07 AM
  Hello TG Sir,

Really like your cool attitude towards the current "CATalycsm."

I gave my CAT on November 30 in Ahmedabad. The test went fine except the fact that the system crashed thrice but that is fine....after all it's a stupid machine only... big grin I had to stay put for an extra hour as my system had to be logged in and out thrice. But the test was fine and I did not get any "unfair" advantage as some might be thinking because the test started from where it ended along with the time at which it ended....the only unfair advantage I had was that I could relax and stretch my back and legs and ogle at girls sitting in the room (he he ...just kidding) and then get back to give the test in a fresh mood.

If we consider this forum as a question in Data Interpretation, I can categorize four kinds of people over here:
1. Angels: Those who are going through all this with a positive outlook and trying to get the best out of it.
2. IIM Bashers: Those who are hammering IIMs coz had it been the paper-based test they would surely have scored 200 percentile.
3. Crybabies: Those good-for-nothing guys who suck in all forms of test taking and cry that the entire system is faulty and that others are getting "unfair advantages" while they struggle and cry in a "fair manner."

Let me conclude with my observations on CAT: I simply don't know how much questions I attempted or left because I was timed-out and could not review my questions, so, I don't know what my result would be....but this effort on the part of IIMs is really superb and path-breaking, just to conduct such an exercise on a national basis. Secondly, even if you press the QUIT button accidentally, it is not that the test will be finished...the computer will show a message and it will be over only if you confirm it.....Thirdly, you can move to any section you want through the REVIEW section...just double click on the question that you want to attempt.

Best of luck to all....especially categories 2 and 3 guys...you really need it...


big grin big grin
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Vijay S - Friday, 4 December 2009, 12:23 AM
  Lol Ranjit.. Good one..
TG/Dagny,
Quick doubt.. If some questions/answer options are wrong then is it best to leave it unanswered or just mark some option so that it is considered attempted and grace marks are awarded..??
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Ankesh Grover - Friday, 4 December 2009, 12:25 AM
  @Sayantan
I got that mail just a couple of hours back....candidate service operates till 6 only....will call them up tomorrow and ask..
Do lemme know if you get any updates on this issue...I shall do the same...
Anyone else with similar experience??
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by shivansh tyagi - Friday, 4 December 2009, 12:34 AM
 

hi,

has anyone given CAT at IMD new delhi, i have my d day today in second slot, can anyone tell me ambout the experince at this paticular center......i m waiting for replies...........

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kishan sarangi - Friday, 4 December 2009, 12:42 AM
  Hi,

This is my first post for the forum.Last year I have appeared CAT and scored a 94%.So I was hopeful for this year yet this year the preparation was not up to the mark Appeared only few mocks and scores were between 70-80%.This year I have appeared for CAT today.This year we do not have a vision abt the exam cut off and accuracy of the answers.So it is a dilemma for me to which insti I should apply.I have been a regular visitor last year and believe I have improved from 40% to 90+ TIME AIM CATS by the absolute fundas by the site.So sole credit goes to TG.Believe me my friend has made into IIML last year and he was a worshipper of the site and there will be thousands to cout for.Though everybody could not make a reply to the post.So TG pls suggest how we shd go and apply for the B schools when the scores were purely based on confidence.I hope you will enlight us in this directions.Thanks for evrything TG smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Bonhomie Fella - Friday, 4 December 2009, 01:01 AM
  I have been following this thread since the first day (also the deletd posts).

First of all i will really appreciate TG sir for his positive attitude towards the chaotic manner in which things have gone. Thanks Dagny mam, ur advice is really the best one to follow "study hard, work hard rather than finding short cuts to crack cat".

However, there is so much happening out there that is bound to create panic. The latest issue which has worried students is the level of difficulty getting higher every day.

Students have attempted questions more than 50 on the first few days, however, today most of the students have been able to attempt 35 - 40 questions. The feedback from students who gave the exam today was that they were surprised when they saw that unlike what they have heard from the past few days, the paper wasn't easy.

Cat has been known to throw surprises every year, but a surprise shouldn't change and make the game unfair towards some.

It has been debated that since people giving the paper on the later days have already got a fair amount of idea of the level of difficulty, they have a slight advantage. I agree to this logic, however even if people who are giving the test on the first day didn't know in advance that they will get an easy paper, it was still easy. The fact that they didn't know in advance that the paper is going to be easy, didn't make the paper tough for them, it still remained easy.

Some may say i m cribbing, but i still think it is unfair, comments and criticism from fellow TGites and TG sir and Dagny mam will be highly appreciated.

All the best to all of us.

GOD BLESS ALL !!!!!!!!!!     
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Friday, 4 December 2009, 01:17 AM
  Hi Vijay,

Leave it unanswered. smile

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by NAHUSH PHADKE - Friday, 4 December 2009, 01:34 AM
 

Hello TG sir and Dagny mam,

                Atlast had a dream appoinment with CAT today in 2nd slot.amidst all the speculations of glitches and technical faults i had my date with CAT like a cake walk.every thing went so smoothly and perfectly that i felt the failure of earlier CAT exam slots of some students may have been the combination of students faults(pressing the exit,end button,not following the invigilators advise seriously etc.)along with tecnical glicthes.

                    But i want to tell all of you who are yet to give there CAT  that the 'CAT' is getting wilder and fiercefull day by day. The exam was not at all cakewalk as i had read on earlier posts so be very very carefull before attempting the questions, to be specific the DI section is getting from bad to worse and much more time consuming and tricky. QA was also not much easy but there were some straight Qs on various topics but definetly a good one to have a mental exercise.VA was comparatively easy except nightmerish RCs.so was able only to attemt the overall attempts upto 33-37 with no flueks or tukkas.

                         so all of who are yet to give the exam dont take it lightly.my best wishes to all of you.

                     And one more thing which i want to mention here is that i really want to thanks DAGNY mam for giving me an advise to read the novels and chill out during last two-three days before  my exam that kept me fresh and relaxed so as to give full throttle attempt at the exam.

                                TG sir if i had posted something which you might think to be out of the rules of the forum then please forgive me .

                                                                           Regards

                                                                            Nahush

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by dindo saha - Friday, 4 December 2009, 02:19 AM
  Hi all,
Istly thanks TG for this wonderful site the journey
had been been great.
(though i expected few more video lessons!!)
Few things i gathered fro this thread
1)Dont unnecessarily put ur already
pot boiling head to some more tensions
2)Server might fail ,pc might reboot so gotta
be prepared for these
3)Can higlight any portion of passage
4)Can navigate to any question by choice
5)Never press the dreaded 'QUIT' button it
might end everything before anything begins
6)WHENEVER I GET TENSED AND PANICKY I JUST NEED
TO REbOOT THE SYSTEM AND CATCH SOME FRESH AIR(HA HA)
7)TRY TO REVISE THE FORMUALES REGARDING ALL
PORTIONS OF THE QUANT SECTION
8)FINALLY WAKE UP EARLY ON THE TEST DAY
AND REACH DESIRED PLACE ON TIME
9)ATTEMPT ATLEAST 35 QUESTIONS TO EXPECT ANY GOOD
PERCENTILE
10)IF TEST DOESNOT GO AT PAR WITH EXPECTATIONS
FLAME AND BLAME THE IIMS
AND CLAIM RETEST (HA HA)
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Rahi Vashist - Friday, 4 December 2009, 02:48 AM
 

hi ..nautie techie

Pls mark a copy to me also..
id: rahid4u@gmail.com

Regards

RV

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Ayan Ghosh - Friday, 4 December 2009, 07:52 AM
  Hi All,

I gave my test on 2nd Dec.Writing my experience a bit late.But, better late than never.

My center was RVIM,B'lore 10AM.

Was really tensed in the morning.Got up around 6 and left my place around 7.Reached my center @ 7:45Am.The gates opened @ 8:30AM,The initial security check was completed by 9AM.There was a second check also.Before that, drink water or get urself refreshed.Though they will allow u to do the same till its 30 mins before test.

The people and staff there were very very helpful.In case of any doubts please ask them,they will help u out.

If you have any doubts,however silly it may be ... be free to ask them.

There was a bio-metric test.After that,we were allowed inside the test room.U'll be alloted a number and it will decide ur system.

I went and sat there.Had to wait for sometime.Checked the mouse and the space available for working.It was comfortable.The room temperature was a bit cold.Requsted the personel to increase the same.He did.

Then,there was a set of instuctions.Listen to them properly and also read the printed set of instructions.

Also go through the tutorial.It's useful.

Then,I started the test.Absolutely, no glitches.Very smooth.

After the test got over,I raised the hand,the attendant came and helped me finish the rest of the things.Had to wait for some time after that.Not too long,somewhere around 15 mins.

I would like my fellow gadhas ... not to panic, there has been very very less problems after 30th Nov.Be a bit careful while switching questions.
The review button is working absolutely fine.No issues with that.The response time of the software is also very good.Infact better than most of the Mocks.

Keep ur cool!!!!
Don't listen to all the gossips around.I didn't.
Believe in the higher power.And believe that the deserving will surely be rewarded.

Thanks a ton,TG,Dagny,Kamal,SE and others......

Cheers!!!!
Ayan.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sanjeeb panda - Friday, 4 December 2009, 08:09 AM
 

Hi All,

I have been with this forum for last one year and I can say I have left the coaching class after 10 days of my joining when I started going through the pages of this site.

Thanks TG sir and madam also with whome I have never chat or talked but this benevolent site will help each cat aspirant.

Thanks again sir.

My exam was over yesterday and no problem regarding the server and other  technical glitches.

One thing guys those who have burnt their mid night candle ,pls don't go with a preconcieved ideas that I have to 45 or 40 questions.

U guys must have heard people came out from exam hall said " questions were easy but I could not do well" and some "I have done 45 questions....cat has no standard now"....PLs guys don't be a part of this and pls concentrate on ur preparation and according to the difficulty level u will do as many as possible.

I have faced while giving exam.The idea "that people have done 15 quants and I will do " created a sense of insecurity whileI was not able to go beyond 12-13. And believe me this will create a hindrance while reading another questions.

 

Inshort I can say pls go with a openmind and do as many as u can do that time.

PLs forgive me if I have written any derogatory statements....

Regards

Sanjeeb

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Nikhil Lingala - Friday, 4 December 2009, 09:05 AM
  Hi TG Sir/Dagny Mam,

Could you please extend my CAT CBT membership until the last day of CAT? I've sent an email to admin@totalgadha.com requesting it.

Thanks,
Nikhil
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ritika bajaj - Friday, 4 December 2009, 10:11 AM
  @dipak

Center is so-so types. Proctors were not good in my hall. Not helping at all.

there was no issues with the systems there. Just mind that you do not touch those four buttons that I mentioned. Rest they will guide you.

all the very best. Do well

Take care

Ritika
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dipak Haridas - Friday, 4 December 2009, 10:29 AM
  thnx ritika...
hope i  wont face "starting" problem...smile
will share my experience afterwards....

Dipak
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Ranjit Menon - Friday, 4 December 2009, 10:53 AM
  Hi Vijay,

I did not encounter any such questions which seemed to be wrongly asked or had wrong options...but yes if you attempt a question and later on if it is proved to be wrong, then according to standard test taking protocols followed by all major institutes, that question is awarded marks....but again such instances are very far between and Prometric is very diligent in checking the accuracy of the questions and answers it displays.

Hope I was able to clear your doubt.

Thanks.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by nupur arora - Friday, 4 December 2009, 11:04 AM
  TG and Dagny,

I really don't know whats wrong in what I have written and why am I not getting a response, nevertheless I must express my heart felt gratitude to you both for taking an initiative. I would also not want CAT to get scrapped for this is a progressive steptaken by IIM people. Cheers to TG and Dagny.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sunil bin - Friday, 4 December 2009, 11:21 AM
 
Latest news:

Common Admission Test re-scheduled to Dec 31 from Dec 8



The 6,000 students that were unable to give their Common Admission Test (CAT) exam can finally heave a sigh of relief.  The Indian Institutes of Management (IIMs) will re-schedule the exams from the December 8 to December 31. About 60% of these students have already been issued new dates.
But IIMs have made no decision yet to scrap the online exam.


http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/current-affairs/common-admission-test-re-scheduled-to-dec-31dec-8_428982.html
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Kritika Tandon - Friday, 4 December 2009, 12:25 PM
  I gave my test on 1st Dec. and I believe I was very lucky to have an extremely well managed test centre in Gurgaon. Checked in 8 am. Had 8:45 to 9:30 to just sit at the terminal. God Bless the people at the centre, the proctors, the centre administrator. they told us about the "end review" issue. Took every step to ensure no one faces any issue. All goes on to say.. Conducting an Online test is extremely doable smile.
As far as the issue of people giving later getting an advantage is concerned, it is the same for GMAT, GRE and every Online exam. You can always ask a friend who has given GMAT/GRE 5 day before you. So does that dilute the test standard? What all this begins to boil down to is : Is a one-day/2 hour online/paper pencil/offline/take home/whatever test the absolutely right way/single parameter to select people for doing an MBA? Is it time for the Indian MBA to graduate to an "application/essay" mode?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Friday, 4 December 2009, 12:15 PM
  Hi Nupur,

Nothing wrong with your post. Unfortunately, I do not have an answer sad

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Friday, 4 December 2009, 12:58 PM
 

Hi All,

I completed my exam in Yesterday's afternoon slot. It went very well. I strongly believe that I am done well. But at the end of the day, it is relative performance with other aspirants. So need to wait for the results by keeping my fingers crossed.

Here are my observations:

1. Dont believe outside rumours that can be of any kind. Such as system failures, level of paper, hype of newspapers, doubts on online exam, inconsistant time of exam etc...  Except system failures all are scrap. Probability of this is also very less.

2. Be mentally prepare to wait for the exam... Dont get exhausted when you are waiting for exam.

3. IIM and Prometric are not friends and they are just business partners. So IIMs have full control over the exam. There are 2 example to prove it. One is, the entire exam process will be recorded and sent to the IIMs at the end of the day. They will clearly verify each video to check what happened at a particular centre at particular slot. They clearly know who wrote the exam, who faced troubles etc. Second, the rough sheets on which we work on would be seding to IIMs for the integrity check. They clearly verify all rough sheets for the culprit acts. The instructor will tell you about this before the exam. That is why they took a buffer time of almost 45 days to annouce the results. (Usually for online exam we dont need such time).

4. Your test will not begin by itself. So need not to see the computer after clicking on start exam. The prometric personnel need to give username and password.

5. In my testing lab, there are CRT monitors as well as flat panel monitors.

My suggestions:

1. Be mentally prepared for the waiting. There are multiple levels of checks. So be patient and that would help you a lot in exam. Make sure that you are loosing your energy just because of waiting time.

2. Better to have 2 ID proofs in hand. They compare the photo and your face. So if one ID proof is not clear, you can submit the other.

3. Better to go to restroom before the exam.

4. They will give you 4 A4 size sheets for rough work. Note your number on all the pages.

5. You may get confused in calculating the time you spent. In other words, there is no direct way to know howmuch time you spent. The timer provided shows the time remaining. So you need to calculate the time spent by yourself. If you want to allot 40 mins for every section, then write down on the rough paper to indicate timing as

Start of exam : 2:15 (Timer display)

First Section to be end at : 1:35

Second section to be end at : 0:55

Third section to be end at : 0:15 

You need not to calculate in the middle of exam. It avoids a big confusion in you.

6. There will be a tutorial for 15 mins. This can be finished in even 3 mins. But dont end the tutorial. Instead, spend your time to warm up your mind. Just think about your aim, dream and uncover your full energy.

7. Becareful while downloading data to rough paper. Don't hesitate to allot proper time to write down the data on rough paper properly. If you do small mistake, you will end up with wrong answer.

8. You can ask prometric voulnteers to adjust the brightness of the monitor as per your convinience. This should be check before starting the exam.

9. They will give you 2 pencils. If you want to be sharpen the pencil, just raise the hand parralelly working with the other pencil. They replace the pencil with new.

If you have any doubts please ask me.

I changed my email id in the site... because I don't entertain mails. Ofcourse it is safeside.

Last but not least, GADHA is a bigger animal than CAT so it is obvious that GADHA dominates CAT smile

- Sreeni

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Friday, 4 December 2009, 01:04 PM
  Cool post Sreenivas smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by niraj kumar - Friday, 4 December 2009, 01:32 PM
  Hi Friends,

Just finished my CAT.
It was all very fine.No problems at all.
I heard that they give only 2 pencils and no sharpner.
Usually I used 4-5 pencils in any exam,so I was bit scared.
But the center administrators told me not to worry.And they gave me two extra pencils during the exam.And one more important thing was the doubt about 'LOO'.Friends They allow you to go as many number of times as you want before half an hour of the exam.So no need to take tension.
And believe me you need not worry about anything (except of course if there is some server problem or so).Once the exam starts 'PATA BHI NAHI CHALTA KI ONLINE HAI YA OFFLINE......AAKHIR SAWAAL HI TO BANAE HAIN'.
So dont worry at all guys.Practice more(esp the simple but tricky probs).Go and rock the show.

Krazzy.....
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sayantan Mandal - Friday, 4 December 2009, 02:14 PM
 

@ ankesh,

Just got a chance to speak to the Candidate Care Representative and he said that if you have completed the exam properly, then you can ignore the mail. It was sent to us by a mistake.....

You can relax buddy!! smile

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Robin Jain - Friday, 4 December 2009, 03:01 PM
  For the Post and anxiety of KANIKA ARORA-

Hello TG sir, Dagny mam and one of the senior most GADHA Hungry Gadha,

First of all Dagny MAM,

Answer to your 1st point which u replied to Kanika--- In some way or the other Kanika was right when she says that you guys dont reply to new members.
May I know the reason, replying to novices will lessen your integrity or what?

Answer to 2nd Point--- If the other members were not replying to Kanika then it was ur guys responsibility to reply her.

Your 3rd point was right.

Answer to 4th point-- I didn't see anywhere in her message where she is disrespectful.

Now TG SIR (I think this wont hurt u as I included sir)

What did u said? That total gadha is disrespectful...lol
Then u should change your website name to tg.com or tgsir.com.
why are u still maintaining the website's name as totalgadha.com if it is disrespectful.
By the way, Kanika told TG SIR not total gadha to you.
I didn't see any where, where she is being disrespectful SIR.
This is called frustration when someone is tensed and it is you the so called MENTOR'S duty to remove that tension.

But unfortunately u all just shouted on that girl and nothing else...sad very sad...

Now Mr. Senior most GADHA i.e. Hungry Gadha...
Sarcasm..????
Do u know the meaning of sarcasm???
will u please tell me where Kanika used any sarcastic words?
Trait...lol...no comments...
Gadha cult- Oh yeah...TG SIR and Dagny mam showed that GADHA CULT

In the end just wanna say...you are from students and not students from you...
Yes I am harsh, very harsh and don't have any regrets of it...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Friday, 4 December 2009, 03:28 PM
 

Robin is a bit correct. Sir when I posted my first post 6 months back, I got reply saying that content was not respectful. I surprised to see that reply.

By that time I did not know the meaning of Gadha. I got to know the meaning from my friend later. That too most of the students are from IT field where everyone called by their name not by designations.

So that might be a reason where the posts might contain the disrespect.

I dont have solution for it .... but I can say that its not a major mistake to discuss..

Sorry if  i am wrong somewhere....

-Sreeni

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by loo czar - Friday, 4 December 2009, 03:33 PM
  Gurur Brahma Gurur Vishnur Gurur Devo Maheswaraha
Gurus Sakshat Parabrahma Tasmai Srigurave Namaha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Friday, 4 December 2009, 04:20 PM
  Hi Robin,

If you see this thread you will see that half of the persons I am replying to are new. But you wouldn't know who is new to TG and who isn't. I would. You are just assuming. On the contrary, Kanika is an old timer, check her threads in quant forum. And lots of students call me Total Gadha but I know when one is disrespectful and when one is not. And you are saying that she didn't call me Total Gadha I think you need to check the thread again. Third, about the responsibility, we have many other responsibilities, towards the students who are busy studying, than responding to posts. We certainly miss replying to many posts, the reason for which is neither familiarity nor anything else. The sheer reason is that we are busy doing something else, for example creating content.

And your last statement, about us being because of students and students not because of us, just shows a lack of maturity. No organization, relationship, or community exists because of one- way exchange. If you wanted to learn more about this world and there was no one to tell you how would you learn? And suppose you learnt about this world and you wanted to tell others and there was noone, who would you teach? A teacher needs students as much as students need a teacher. A teacher finds the joy of teaching whereas the students find the joy of learning. It is as simple to me as that.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dagny Taggart - Friday, 4 December 2009, 04:38 PM
  Hi Elegant,

So sorry, I confused you . sad If you don't have a DL, passport or affidavit, voter id etc, in that case you have to carry a notarized Affidavit with Photo, Signature, Date of Birth and Residential Address.

Here's copying from CAT IIM website: http://catiim.in/report_test.html

If you have registered for Session 1 (morning session), candidate check-in will commence from 8 AM. Candidates are required to arrive at the test centre no later than 8:30 AM. Testing will begin at 10 AM and end at 12:30 PM. If you have registered for Session 2 (afternoon session), candidate check-in will commence from 1:30 PM. Candidates are required to arrive at the test centre no later than 2:00 PM. Testing will begin at 3:30 PM and end at 6 PM.

Candidates will need to bring their CAT 2009 Admit Card, voucher, a valid document as proof of SC/ST eligibility (if applicable) and one photo-identification to the test centre. Acceptable forms of photo identification are Driver's license, Passport, PAN Card, Voter ID, College ID, Employee identification card, or a notarized Affidavit with Photo, Signature, Date of Birth and Residential Address. Candidates will not be permitted to take the test if photo identification and Admit Card is not presented. If the name has been changed due to events such as marriage, you must show the documents such as Marriage Certificate, Divorce Decree, Legal Name Change etc. and submit a photocopy at the time of the test, interview and at the time of joining a programme.

Candidate will not be permitted to carry any personal items to the test centre, including but not limited to wrist-watch, pen, cellphones, calculators, etc.

Dagny


Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Archana BN - Friday, 4 December 2009, 04:38 PM
 

Hi TG Sir and Danny ma'm,

I gave my CAT today the over all experience was really good,the procots where helpful at the center.

i would really thanks you and danny ma'm for openning this site for CAT asprists. all the credit  goes to you sir i'm really thank full to yousmile.i can tell anybody tht this is  the best site for sudents preparing for CAT.NO other institute can explain the concepts so clearly. each and every concepts u hv explained  in quants is like high nutrition food for us really thanks sirsmile

today i gave CAT it was good.

1. quants and  di was moderate 

2.VA i felt little diffucult

3. question pattern was same 20-20-20.

4. my advice to the CAT asprists  who hv not taken would  be,listen the instuction given by the procots without fail and there wil be no probelm in the exam.

5. U can go to any question you wan by clicking review botton and double click to the question u wan pls dnt press review end botton as it wil end the test.

6.in each page at the bottom there is |previous| mark| quit|review| next| so pls dnt press quit botton as it wil end the test.

7.u can clear the option by double clicking on the marked radio on which u hv marked.u can also highlight para in the passage.

8. they will provide 2 pencil ,1 erasier and  booklet of 8 leaves (4 pages) and no sharpner.

All the best all who hv not appeared for the test

thanks once again sir for helping  thousands of students. 

Archana

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arnab das - Friday, 4 December 2009, 04:41 PM
  For the last few days people here are too busy to prove each other wrong tactically and logically, is this a part of CAT? hahatongueout..don't mind..;)...I think its helpful for GD!!(plz dont mind just trying to push some fresh air, no offence)

TG Sir, I gave my exam yesterday(3:30 slot). There are so many claims of 45-50 scores(even 57+) in all forums. I don't think the exam was a cakewalk like that. Will you like to share your view?

Will there be different credential or percentile for diff slot? I know its difficult to answer at this stage, but like to hear from you.

Thanks

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Krushang Shah - Friday, 4 December 2009, 05:11 PM
  Hi Fellow Gadhas n Gadhis,

Given my CAT yesterday - 3rd dec; Morning slot - 10:00...

Reached the center at 7:35 am
Security let us in around 8:00 am
Proctor took photo, n than finger-prints (Though everybody was giving the finger prints of the right hand index finger, computer was refusing to accept the same in my case, so they used left hand index finger tongueout)

I was at my desk on 8:17 am. 1st PC of the Lab, right in front of the door
around 8:45 almost all the candidates were checked in, even I read (several times) the document called "instruction", which was right there on my desk.
As they ensure all the candidates checked in.
Than they give as a "bio-break" of about 5mins.
Returned to the PC, at that time proctors were discussing "lets login right now - may be after 9:30 load will increase, and may cause problems."
So they entered the login details on the PC n my photo was right there in front of me (albeit not a smiling one smile)
around 9:35 they instructed us to start the tutorial.
at 10:00 they started the test.
completed the test at 12:15.
invigilators had instructed us to remain seated till each n every candidate complete his/her test.
Leave the room at 12:25.
Everything was perfect accept my performance...angry

My attempts
QA 14-15
DI 16-17
VA 11-12

OA 41-44

There was a problem with one question in QA. it was like two questions were mixed up...

So, this is my story...ended here... Hope will get admitted some reputed insti...
Thank you all...

P.S : I indeed owe very much to TG Sir, Dagny Mam n fellow gadhas...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ritika bajaj - Friday, 4 December 2009, 05:49 PM
  @ Robin

If you  hate this site too much then why are you logging in here??

The phase in which we people are, TG and Dagny have crossed it. Nobody grows without having the experience. So, I don't think there is any point of arguing with them for this or telling them about their RESPONSIBILITY. Had they not known their responsibility, you would not have got any HELP, for which you kept coming here again and again.  You are just showing your level of maturity by all non sense you are talking. Its not bad to support anybody, but if you've had any grudges againt TG and Dagny you should have taken the intiation to talk about it. Why to Pretend that you are "supporting"?

By the way who are you to suggest somebody regarding his business or some matter for which only he is allowed to take the decision? Moreover when nobody is asking you. Its completely TG's wish to keep the name of his site whatever he wants to. What if any of your aunt ( or uncle) suggeted your parents, on your birth, to keep your name some "budhu" or "Kajagoogoo" instead of Robin, how would your parents have felt?

In the end I would like to tell you that if you think that a Teacher is because of its students and not students because of the teacher, then why the hell have you wasted your 20 important years going to them only and wasted your money? Think before what you say. And again if you dont like this website and the Mentors here are not good to you,STOP coming here.

"Yes I am harsh, very harsh and don't have any regrets of it..."


@ Sreeni

If i call you "oye ladke".. you wont like it, even if i dont say it intentionally. Insult can only be felt the one who is being insulted.

Ritika
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by charles M - Friday, 4 December 2009, 05:36 PM
  To Robin

I feel really hurt by your post.Is this the respect that you show to ur teacher then definitely you dont deserve to visit this site (though i dont have right to say that, you have made me to say so).Is it possible for couple of people to read all post and answer all queries.Is this their only work you think !.
Dont think everyone as u robin, as you dont have anywork you will post all nonsense expecting TG to reply.

Yes I am harsh, very harsh and don't have any regrets to you (Robin)
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amit kheterpal - Friday, 4 December 2009, 05:44 PM
  tg sir/dagny mam not able to login in cbt club .please extend my period..sad
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arnab das - Friday, 4 December 2009, 06:10 PM
 

TG Sir,

Will there be different credential or percentile for diff slot? I know its difficult to answer at this stage, but we like to hear from you. Please share your thoughts.

 

Thank You!!

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by yeshwanth mocherla - Friday, 4 December 2009, 06:15 PM
  I had my CAT today ..It was very easy ! that is what i would like to say..

I would like to THANK TOTAL GADHA for the posts and ebooks...

I got atleast 7-8 questions becuz of the crystal clear concepts offered by TG..and m not a CBT student ! wonder what they must have done..!

Thanks TG once again..
 I have attempted
Quant 15
DI 15
Verbal 17


I donno if my attempts will suffice though..

And I had absolutely No problem in taking the test though i expected to hav some probs after readin so many posts in so many forums...guys..CHILL !! all d best !
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by tanmoy laskar - Friday, 4 December 2009, 06:29 PM
  Good topic for GD rounds this year-->"do you think cat09 has done well being conducted online?"...lol
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by TG Team - Friday, 4 December 2009, 06:46 PM
 

Arnabsmile

TG is not online right now and has instructed me to inform you that he'll reply as soon as he reaches back.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by raj arora - Friday, 4 December 2009, 06:49 PM
  hey frnds i took only cat, no any other exams, i did well but so did others :D , nw m confused , shud i take other exams like MAT or CET ? suggest me good institutes , btw i did very well in cat maths 18 almost correct, dilr was also nt tough i cud solve 17 nd va 20, i solved all lr perfectly, it was nt tough compared to previous papers
go frndss all d best take exam chiill
thankss
tg sir nd dagny mam smile
thanks tg sir for ur rc strategy, no any 1 suggested me dis type of
rc CONCENTRATE ON PASSAGE , AND DO IT , NO SKIP , NO STEM JUST RC RC ND RC
@ amit thanks dear







Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Friday, 4 December 2009, 07:10 PM
  i took my test today and it went well smile

i am sorry i didn't count my attempts sad

my gratitude to TG sir, whose articles on maths are the best that can be found anywhere. Dagny ma'am pj unraveling experience was quite fun too smile

after out cat (and his) is done, i would love it if he would write a post about handling life and pressure. and what does it take to be under so much pressure and still not lose his cool (unlike me :P). how do you maintain so much composure even amidst all the storm?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Friday, 4 December 2009, 07:18 PM
 

@ Ritika ...

You are correct ... In order to not repeat these kind of faults ... I am learning Hindi... smile Thanks ... I always respect teachers.. Sometimes a bit communication gap.. Just excuse me ..... mujhe maaf karo ji ...smile

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Nidhi Mehta - Friday, 4 December 2009, 07:23 PM
 

There is this one thing I want to share with all the students likeme who took the test and faced problems or are unnecesarily wasting their time as to what may hapen during their exam:

Here it goes:

I understand that there were issues with the CAT and a lot of students faced problems. Despite of all this I greatly appreciate IIMs for thinking out of the box and discarding the age old practice of paper pencil test. Trying out new methodologies definitely pose certain problems but in the end this in the benefit of the students. Revolution happen but positive results donot come out at once.

For all those students students who say that this is unfair, I really want to tell them one thing. If you are capable of getting into a good b-school, you would definitely get into it, despite of what all may happen. People talk as if they would have scored a 99.999%, if there werent any problems. Most of you know in hearts of your hearts that you wouldnt be able to do 40-50 questions, if it was the ususal CAT paper.

I do also understand in the end Percentile matter and not the percentage, but it is up to you how you take it. I strongly feel that it is a LOSER attitude to get this test cancelled, just because your other mate was able to do well and you were not (despite of anything and everyting).

Moreover, its not only the IIMs we have. We do have many other prestigious institues as well. If your capable enough try and get into one of those institues, rather than criticizing others. Spend your valuable time, (which, I believe IIMs have wasted) in preperation for those institues.

Remember, If you deserve it, you would definitely get it, no matter what hurdles come your way !!smile

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arjun a - Friday, 4 December 2009, 07:31 PM
  Finally gave CAT on 1st December.
My examination center was in gurgaon. Everything at the center was well orchestrated. Exam started at the right time and I read the tutorial too. The computer terminals at my center were new so nobody faced any problem pertaining to system crash, viruses attacks or likewise. Overall it was hassle-free.

Now something about the exam:
There were 20 questions in each section.
From my standpoint, it was a speed based exam.
It was almost as easy as SNAP.
Although I never got enough time to solve all the previous CAT questions, but I can say now that solving them could have been a lot more beneficial.
Quant was easy and verbal ranged from easy to moderate.
DI was moderate. There were few questions where one had to calculate up-to 2nd decimal place.

To the ones who are still to appear:
1. Be there on time. At least 2 hours before your scheduled time.
2. There is no need to bring anything except your admit card, Id proof and voucher.
3. Interface is very well designed, so don't worry about the navigation from one question to another. Just try the exam tutorial on CAT official website. Just one advise here: "BEWARE OF THE QUIT TEST BUTTON". This button follows you on every page. Although it will ask for your confirmation before it will end your exam, but still it is better to be aware of this button.

Best of luck to all.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by shivansh tyagi - Friday, 4 December 2009, 07:32 PM
 

To IIMs,
First of all I want to tell something about me, belongs to a midlle class family ,got 97 percentile last year but could not take admission due to bad health of my father the only earning hand in family, so i have to go for a job..My father dis year insipred me to go for CAT again.I left my job, putting future my family nd my career at stake.

Now, coming to the point.I gave my test today in second shift at IMD delhi...reached there at 1 pm...go through the unusal process of identification..Frisked my gaurds like i m a suspect..the sitting arrangement is so conjusted like i m travelling in a blue line of delhi...I noticed several groups of person who knw each other sitting side by side....
as the process start my system first show u r not loged in...when proctor restared it it show this work station has no test scheduled for this slot.......i ws horrified...after that i ws asked to go for biometric nd pic checks again.. i kept my nerves nd coperate with them...
at last after much confusion i m able to loging...
when test is started , within 5 mins i was shocked when a pop up come to my screen saying virus detected i feel horryifed, asked proctor nd he said dnt worry ...he canceld it.. but after that it keep on buzzing my screen every now nd then each time making me feeled tht i ws robbed...
the fresco nt end here, several of my labmates dnt have timer or question coming on their screen i m lucky dis time...........bt still i dnt get why we r nt allowed to carry our watches with us..are there is a threat of watch bomb or smthing like watch camera dnt knw...........
next the workstations are not properly isolated,u can easily watch others screen .....my neighbour continously peep in my window and after xam even enquired me about my performaance i knw i have been cheated...but cant do anything..........
at last we r provided with only one pencil, nd had to ask for new sharpend one again and again disturbing us lot............
When i came out of centre heard many ppl on call , victrously telling their caller "Yaar tere bataye 4 question vase".And my dream is completely shatterd....

I dnt knw wht to do , feeling tht i have done my biggest mistake to go for CAT........
I m not asking any quetion why dis is happend to me nd who is reponsible for all dis....
But can justice be given to students like us..Who dnt high class coaching nd rely much on thier limted resources nd hardwork to fulfil our dreams..................

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by bhavika bali - Friday, 4 December 2009, 07:38 PM
  hey guysss..is it tat level of difficulty is increasing day by day..???i mean i ws suppose to appear on the first day bt it gt cancelled...nw i'm scheduled for the last day...there are all kinds of things people are saying...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arjun a - Friday, 4 December 2009, 07:47 PM
  Few capable of scoring 99 %tile might end up at 97-98. Few might miss the exam itself. Many aspirants had an unfair share of problems, which nobody should have had, but one has to live with it and keep trying their best. One of my friends at hyderabad knew answers to about 6 questions he attempted in the exam and another one had a timer missing on his screen!
At last all I can say is that there were problems and inadequateness, but at the end it is always beneficial to keep cynicism aside and think of the future.
horrible CAT 2009 Experiences
by umesh singh - Friday, 4 December 2009, 08:23 PM
 

yaaro!!!!

 Today's my rendezvous with CAT was not pleasant. while i was in Q, i found a bunch of guys discussing about papers and had a list of questions in their hand and completely ingrossed in operating each question in the list. I was wondering what they are doing and ,grudgingly ,put forth the" what are you doing guys, it is CAT ,not semester exams where every year questions repeat in one form or other?".To my utter despair, when they came out and their facial expression were victorious and laughing ear to ear as if they won each and everything under the sun. To add to this, my computer terminal did not like face and stopped functioning thrice and attendant took my almost 20 minutes and commited that he would allot extra time at the end of test, but it did not happen .i was quite disappointed bros .......

umesh

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ritika bajaj - Friday, 4 December 2009, 08:25 PM
  @sreeni

all I want to say is "do not support somebody, who is wrong." By doing this you also get counted in the list of Wrong People and you lose your respect as well.

Take Care

Ritika
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Friday, 4 December 2009, 08:46 PM
  Hi Arnab and others,

My feeling is that since questions are being picked up from a database, the algorithm would be determining the difficulty index of each question from the responses of the population who is taking it. Which basically means that a person would be rated by how good he/she is performing in questions of higher and highers difficulty indices. This would also kind of nullify the apparent "CAT questions" that are coming in the test. The questions can have very low difficulty index for them to matter. And I am also feeling that it would be good to attempt ALL the questions since the number of questions have been kept low in order to elicit responses for all the questions to understand how a student is doing.

This is just a guess that I have. I am surprised that IIMs didn't create 20 different papers, one for each slot. But it can also mean that they want to get difficulty indices of the questions so that they can move to computer-adpative test soon.

Also, if CAT is going to be scrapped, they would certainly do so after this 10- day window is over. Why not get responses for the questions, even if you are going to scrap it. smile The questions can be used next year.

By the way, when I discussed this scenario in May this year, everyone said IIMs too intelligent to let people cheat. http://totalgadha.com/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=4734

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Fellis Domesticus - Friday, 4 December 2009, 09:05 PM
  Hi All,

Done with my test today. Evening batch smile

Needed

1. IIM admit card
2. Voucher original. (if have lost it, no worries!!! cool the voucher number will do)
3. Bank pay in slip, if you belong to SC / ST and have a photo copy of your community certificate

Process:

1. You will be asked to form a queue and candidates will be frisked (All your belongings including watch, handkerchief.. everything will be sealed into a plastic cover and a token will be given)
2. Your admit cards, voucher will be cross checked and will be allowed to proceed to the test room
3. Your details will be cross checked once again and it will be cross checked in pro-metric system.
4. 3 finger prints from ur right hand and 3 finger prints from your left hand ll be taken
5. A picture of yours will be taken
6. Now you will be directed to your seat
7. Wait for proctors - Follow their instructions

Some Myth

1. Skipping the 'tutorials' does not give you extra time
2. Re-starting the system does not get you extra time. (Deliberate tampering system!!) Proctors will be in rounds all the time


Some Tips:

1. Not sure about the difficulty level. Guess it has raised a little in DI & QA. As usual VA was drytongueout. DO NOT FORGET: sitters will be there. Don miss them!!!

2. People do try to copy. But its out of your control. Concentrate on your test. (My neighbor tried to copy from my ans. but invigilator came in his view and gave a stern look at him and adjusted the partition kept in between tongueout

3. Give your best. Hope for the best


Thanks,
Fellis Domesticus
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Pavan Kumar Manda - Friday, 4 December 2009, 09:05 PM
 

After my post earlier this week, I thought I will post my exam experience, however it is. So here it goes...

First things first, There were no glitches, not for anybody at my center. So I think many things are center specific. So just get in touch with somebody who gave exam at your center and you will get a fair idea about how its going there.

It was very smoothly conducted and well managed. Was a very serene environment. Proctors were very well behaved. So no issues at all.

Now coming to the actual thing, exam was very easy. Atleast I felt so. Though I think questions did not repeat, they were fairly easy. I dont know how IIMs will mark this and decide cut offs. It is going to be a very close call. There is something here that I would like to share. Keep the basics of Objective exam in mind. Things like Back-Substition and induction will come in handy. Also, know the basic way to appraoch para jumbles. It should be useful. DI is pretty do-able. Dont get stuck at lengthy questions, they are not worth doing at the first go. Please be quick. Questions are easy and so dont relax, thinking 30 -40 % will se you through like normal, I dont think it will.

All the best to all the Gadhas...!!! Its there for taking...

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sourav Dutta - Friday, 4 December 2009, 09:35 PM
  Tg sir,
I have read all ur posts here, n do see a lot of merit in what u have said.
The IIMs are the best management institutes in India and one of the best in the world.
But i still feel that this year's CAT has been a fiasco to say the least and has tarnished and ripped apart a lot of the aura surrounding this very feline entity smile
To mention some of the problems that i faced
and those plaguing the cat in its online avatar in general
1. The diagram in one of my di sets did not load,rendering me incapable of attempting that set at all which by the look of the qns was a very simple one.In a test as competitive as the CAT, such a handicap is detrimental to our chances.On complaining about this to the invigilator, he displayed absolute helplessness much to my dismay.
2. With computers shutting down virtually every 10minutes a lot of disturbances were caused, leading to concentration breaks and preventing me from performing to the fullest.
3.students whose com went down gleefully accepted the god given opportunity of solving 2 3 qa qns or a di set in the time the comp restarted.This is in direct violation of the level playing field that the cat is supposed to provide to all aspirants.

These three points have been personally witnessed by me and i dont even mention the myriad other problems, each of which is serious enough when it shows up during a test of this magnitude.
While i have the utmost respect for the IIMs and the Cat organizing committee, dont u feel TG sir that it is important for them to take up all such problems that the aspirants are facing and come clear on how they'll weigh each handicap that an aspirant faced while writing the test and bring a sense of fairness and sanity to the proceedings.
Till now the situation is too murky and filled with rumours n theories.
Instead of harping only on the technical glitches and the rescheduling of tests, ought the IIMs not come clear on the above
mentioned and other problems faced by the aspirants.

Until they bring out anything official guess we'll have to weait and watch and pray thet justice be done to our 1 yr of hardwork.

Sir i would like to get your esteemed views on these points.

Adios sir, thanks for being patient with my long post smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ankur sharma - Friday, 4 December 2009, 10:13 PM
 

I too was one of those who thought that what could go wrong with iims when i read that post of tg sir about his apprehensions on CBT CAT.But, now when things have gone a bit wrong ,i clearly recall both that post and the words of kumar sir(anything can haapen..it may go haywire).

sir,i would like to add one thing here that it may not be a good idea to try to attempt ALL questions as that test that i took was indeed pretty much like CAT.It was not in anyway an exam that you can bombard by attempting so many questions(especially LDI & VA) as was being heard in past some days.I am talkin about exam of second slot on 3dec.i also couldnot fully avoid being affected by those repeated posts, comments,news and rumours of CAT being so "tucchaa" this year and definitely it added to some disadvantage when i just couldnot find the exam that "tucchaa" in my slot.i donot know what iims have in mind this year regarding cutoffs and all but i would definitely suggest to avoid any preconceived notions.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by adam adam - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 12:11 AM
  The Number of Attempts people are posting on the forums is really too much yaar(mostly 45+) . Has cat become a CBSE like exam ? I think so as questions from last years are being repeated just like CBSE exams . First they brought quota now this online panga . CAT ki maar li ,inn logo nei .
  • Unfair advantage to all those who will take the paper at a later date
  • By just making student agreeing the non disclosure agreement they think they can stop test takers from disclosing it to others . How stupid they are ?
  • Repeating questions from last year papers ....what the "f" man ?..questions ki kami thi toh CL YA TIME ki test series ke lele te
  • Technical problems ......they cannot even handle an online paper...virus attack ...poor management ...etc.
  • unfair advantage to students who do questions written in their rough sheets during the time light is not there ....This strategy everyone is following now and people prey ki light jaiye .
  • How can u take percentile of the students as a way of judging  when they all have taken different tests (even if similar , there will be difficulty level varying)......again this shows their stupidity.
  • one more thing Software problem ....end button or quit button . Firstly there is no need of it . Secondly if it is present there then it must ask once more before quitting the test . My sympathy with people who have been victim of this .
In short CAT 2009 = { "FLOP Show" , " unfair one", "a waste of Rs 1400" ,"luck based paper", "waste of time", " CBSE like paper" , " software with bugs in it" , " example of mismanagement by top Management Institution" .......infinite adjectives }
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ashu jain - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 01:11 AM
  I had my exam on 3rd December in Bandra center, Mumbai, second slot. The paper was not at all so easy that anybody can make 50+ attempts. It was proper CAT standard paper. I would rate LR/DI as moderate to difficult.
There were three questions in Quant section for which either options were not properly printed or the question itself was not properly printed. From the look of it the questions looked pretty doable. In DI section there were 2-3 questions in which we had to just mine the given table and find out the answer. Very straight forward questions but the none of the options were matching. The only section that was trouble free was VA. Thank God at least one.angry
So, for me the paper was not of 60 questions but of 54-55 questions with a disadvantage that I had to miss out on some very straight forward questions.
Out of the paper of 54 questions I have attempted 36-38 questions.
Now I want to know from the geniuses from IIMs, who have goofed up big time and are treating the careers of the candidates like a football that they can kick around,
1) How are you going to normalize scores for candidates like me?
2) Are you going to add extra marks for those 3 questions in my score?
3) How are you going to compensate the valuable time that I lost in the DI set with wrong options?
4) What are you guys doing to maintain the sanctity of the entrance exam and your institutions?
5) Doesn't this give me one more reason to seriously think of doing my MBA from colleges abroad where at least I will face a fair competition?
This time the CAT won't be belled by mice but by moles.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by NAHUSH PHADKE - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 12:54 AM
 
@ Mr.robin jain
 i dont agree with you  on atlest one point which you mentioned in your post about TG Sir or DAGNY mam not responding to the new people or 'novice as you call'  joining the forum.because i myself asked for the advice to this forum and got a prompt reply addressed to it from DAGNY mam and that to after midnight.and that was my first ever post on this forum .so i dont believe in any speculations made by you.sorry but truth could be harsh sometimes..... 
Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by multi loop - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 02:23 AM
 

To whoever who deleted my post, i demand an explanation!

Was it spam that i posted? Was it a violation of the non-disclosure agreement?

This is plain high-handedness!

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ankit dikshit - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 02:25 AM
  My Dear TG Sir//Dagny Mam...and All Gadhas of My Favorite Fraternity...
I have finally hunted the animal of 2009, CAT.
Want to tell every one.. that paper was not at all easy.. (my scores in time aimcats: from 34%ile to 98, simcats: 70-99.75%ile, cl prock mocks: 80-98.xx, joined TG very late.. so a few mocks.. with cbt club... regretting for this)
Today....4th Dec, I took the evening session of CAT at HRIT, GZB. Talking about the paper and lil experience only.. as we have.. gud other kind of gyan in the early posts by senior cat takers of this year....
I started with RC.. which were very short and were tricky too.. sad QA was comparatively at easier side.. LR was a nightmare.. I am sure.. You can use the four letter western slang for it.. Di was on easier side.. VA posses abundance of PJs..
But all over the paper was not at all .. as discussed by the early cat takers...

My Attempts: VA+Rc: 13, QA: 15, DS+DI+LR: 12 over-all: 40.. in doubt for va.. attempted much in RC.. lets c..
bless me my mentors.. so that i can achieve what i aspire smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by wannabe blacki - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 03:38 AM
 

hi all...even i tuk my test on 3rd dec..slot 2. seems like the deadliest so far(goin by the posts here). yes,even i think the level of the questions was not at all 'tuchcha' as it was in the frst few days....i didnt ask for questions frm ne of my frnz who tuk the test on earlier dates,but asked abt the general standard n mahaul in the exam. one of em tuk it on the 1st and said tht sm qstns at least wr frm LOD1,arun sharma. i tuk the exam with all these presumptions at the back of my mind and tht tuk its toll....still managed an attempt of 46 with decent accuracy....dunno if it will suffice....but feel frustrated....am i not able enough tht i also found the paper to be tuchcha? or is it the varying diff levels across the various dates?? i prepared honestly....n i've never been a whiner either...but in ths scenario...cudnt refrain frm postin here... rlly pissed off...!!

i hope the markin wud provide sm respite...

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by wannabe blacki - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 03:58 AM
 

@ TG sir- pls delete my post if u find it discouraging for the test-takers.

i posted here just to hav ur take on this issue...its actually killing! sad

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ankit dikshit - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 04:26 AM
  @wannable
I agree with you.. CAT is changing everyday.. so one must not presume anything...
take it as a surpriZe... all will go well..
all the best.. everybody....
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 09:32 AM
  Hi Multiloop,

No spam on your side. We just try to keep TG free from emails and links. If you want to post links try to post them as text rather than active hyperlinks.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by " S " . - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 09:52 AM
  special thanks to Fellis domesticus , for the information given....
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by honey chaubey - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 10:14 AM
 

Hi TG sir and Dagny Mam,

I gave my exam yesterday morning, and it went fine. Thanks for all your wonderful guidance and support, which always boosted my confidence and help me to prepare well even amidst of a busy schedule.

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Aastha Chalana - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 10:47 AM
 

Hi all,

yes!!! Dec 4, morning slot, gurgaon, CAT 2009.  This post is for all those who all yet to gv exam.

my sincere advice don presume anything for the exam, for instance.. i was of preasumption LR gonna be tricky and DI will be easy..as i started to attempted LRDI section i skipped LR and started DI, in few second i realised it is a very very lengthy question set, i cannot complete it in 10 min even..so, i just then realized i must see the paper from my eyes.. not from the vision i have been shown.. so i started with all unattempted question.. i realised LR n DS were the easiest i got.. in 30 min i completed the LRDI section, leaving just those DI questions i started the set with.

VA, was moderate types, RC were tricky

QA was ok too.. as i found there were many easy and plainly difficult questions, no moderate, so i attempted wisely.(only easy one tongueout)

attempt 43-44, max in LRDI (as i mentioned)

so guys, go n crack it, and this gonna be ur CAT, so don take anyone's word blindly... or exam mein apna dimag lagana.. sab vadiya ho jayega.. result is not in our hand, its the attempt and efforts.. so go for it dudes n dudettes..

i cannot close this post without saying thanks to TG sir and Dagny mam.. for all the sincere efforts... repeating all those words of praise will be mundane for you, but i will be the part of that bandwagon, that this site has been very very helpful.. also, this good work has increased the level of responsibility n you ppl, emerging gadha's n gadhih's must always be loking frward to get all they have heard from companion gadha's.. so just keep up this work, i wish u all the very best in life, may you keep spreading the gadha community in leaps n bounds...

With all due respect n gratitude,
Aastha

 

be is my sincere thanks to TG n Dagny mam for

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by riki gupta - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 12:54 PM
  Hi sir,

I want to know the why the site name is totalgadha.com??the name is interesting or something else.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Pallav Jain - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 01:18 PM
 

hello TG Sir/Ma'am & ferns !!

I started using TG in i think in sept. I am also taking coaching from a well known institute but guys I wud like to say that TG is the best. i really don have words for TG. the Job done by TG sir, there concepts. shortcuts, No institute can give rather i wud say dont give dere students this kind of theory.

analysis of  day 7:-

i gave ma test yesterday. it was really a gud experience. Lab environment was good. proctors were really helpfull. no technicial glicthes but haan a lil bit problem in downloading the exam but it got rectified by prometric guys. as far as papaer is concerned, i think VA was moderate like options were too close a bit confusing, QA was the easiest section. DI was also easy but haan i found reasoning level was high, very confusing, time cosuming and ofcourse lenghty and the problem is, there is only 1 question with per long statement.

suggestions :-

guys do last year papers very honestly as i noticed 3-4 questions from previous year were there not exatly same but yes very similar

get ur fundamentals clear as qaunt was like 10th class, totally based on concepts

VA :- maximum parajumbles were dere, rc was moderate

my attempt %tage was around 65 not sure abt sectional attempts.

lAAST BUT NOT LEAST HAVE A GREAT LUCK TO ME nd ofcourse guys to you and TG Family as well. well they are the reall hero behind ol this.

Have a Blast @@@

Pallav Jain

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ajay sethi - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 01:20 PM
  Thanks a lot TG sir, though i am not a student of your institute but your tutorials on maths have immensely helped me. This time too after the first 2 days of CAT, i was stunned and too preoccupied with the plethora of views on numerous forums, but your sage advice to quit talking and prepare hard for our exams really stuck me as some sagely advice, so i prepared hard , (gave my CAT on 4 December)...and guess what: no glitches, no uncooperative invigilators...the paper was held in a very smooth fashion and i managed to very well in it. Thanks again TG sir, your guidance has been invaluable to me, may god bless you and may TG.com stay and flourish forever.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sweksha chauhan - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 01:22 PM
  2days exam was not dat easy as ppl projected it to be, but not difficult, actually was moderate.one needed to put efforts into DI sec. quant was easy, rc were short but needed calm mind. had 4 ques- which of dem are grammatically correct.
good luck,
ppr is different 4 every slot, so dnt presume that difficulty level 4 sections will be same.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by prakash g - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 01:30 PM
  Hi all ...

Gave my test in Hyderabad just now..

Quant was easy-moderate.Infact some were hackneyed questions whose answers would be known instantly without touching pencil...still could do around 10-12

DI/LR --LR was very easy and Di was also not calculation intensive..but the problem was i couldnt find the answers for few questions in DI in options.That made me calculate and recaluclate to finally arive at the options were wrong.

Verbal-- Was tough.YEs it was tough.Passages were tough.I couldnt comprehend 2 of the passages(keeping in view the time i was left with).Others were moderately difficult.

On the whole i dont think 45-50 was achievable in this test but definitely 25-35 will be average student's score.

I am disappointed with my performance,as Verbal was unexpectedly tough in Rcs and wasted much time.Also the agony that i had after looking at the attempts i made ,also added to the debacle.

Think the paper was tough,not so easy as was told or atleast how i percieved it in the start of the test window.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 02:02 PM
  Hi Riki, here's the story for you: http://totalgadha.com/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=7194

Pallav and Ajay, thanks a lot. It's nice to hear good words. Nothing motivates us as much as a few nice words. smile

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Vijay S - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 02:03 PM
  Hi ppol,

Took the exam today.. Paper was definitely tougher compared to what i had heard so far. Looks like the format of the paper has also changed now. Quant was tough, not many sitters. DI/LR was moderate-difficult. No DS/single question LR problems. 45-50 attempts in this paper is out of question! Wonder how they are going to normalize the scores!?!

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by vikas goyal - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 02:43 PM
 

Al Quaida Reporting tongueout....

Today was the D-day for me to appear for the most awaited xam.I reached my Venue in time but they asked us to stand in a queue for verification process. They had the similar verification points at 8 places hardly at a distance of 10 mtrs angry. I (in fact all) was feeling very fresh for the first 2 hours (During the Verification Process sad) But after that all soul's were cribbing over the whole process. They were taking hell lot of time in this process assuming us to be Militants evil. They didn't allow even the handkerchief inside the lab and people were having problems to clean their spectaclestongueout. If the process is happening at all the places then its fine else its an injustice to the preparation of thousands like me.

Overall Experience

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Manika Tandon - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 03:14 PM
  :D :D :D... sorry for not being from IIM... :D :D :D
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by prakash g - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 03:52 PM
                             WHaT Did IiM s Miss

Hi all Tgites,Tg and Dagny mam,

All these days i have been passively reading all the posts,without taking sides,and was trying to make way better for me.Now that I have given test,which is again and again told by IIms as first sstep in the right direction into the future of CAt and admissions to IIMs thereby,I can have opinion of my own of the total procedure of the admission.

Now let me put all the reasons why IIms have moved to CBT.These are not my subjective ideas but stated by IIms at one or the other time.
1>Go paperless
2>Reduce logistical problems
3>relieve profesors of the extra burden of conduting CAT,which will make em concentrate on Academics
4>make test more easy to take,analyse and publish

Now lets see,what all the test CBT CAT can accomplish.I am not talking about this year coz it has failed,even if it was very smooth ,as smooth as CAT'S fur,there are certain things which in my view IIMs have failed to think rationally.

Go paperless >>Now there are 2-3 papers which are involved in CAT.One is the application form(which s really cubersome) which definitely needed a change.Second is the admit card again its a logistical burden.However many institutes like IIFT,FMS and tests like SNAP and XAT have made this procedure as simple as login>fill>pay all in 2 mins long back.This IIMs have done it this year and is a very welcome change.
But the last papers are the Question paper and answer sheet.Now this is not so big a burden as conducting CAT in 10 days twice each day.IIM are known or perfection which can be seen right at the entrance('test') itself.CAT is known for the unmatched standard of conducing exam without a single problem.Now conducting like that twenty times is a tough job.They might have outsourced it but they can outsource this paper work too.
Reduce logistical problems>>
Yes this is reduced a lot.This obviously is a advantage given by the CBT,but at the cost of many other things.
relieve profesors of the extra burden of conduting CAT,which will make em concentrate on Academics>>
Yes this is a real concern for evey university.They have to improve academic standards and concentrate on em rather than the entrance tests.Thats why many of global universities accept GRE,GMAT and other tests.

What did IIms miss?

IIms missed common sense in my opinion.I might be nothing before all those management gurus,but in collective decsion making such things can arise.
If they wanted to go paper less,wanted to make it easier for the students to take CAT,make the evaluation easy,publish the results faster they have a solution.Why not stop conducting CAT and register for GMAT which many top class universities do.
They dont have any paper work,no burden on professors,no logistics,and noone would question it like they are questioning CBT CAT.
Moreover,CBT is no different from GMAT.Questions which we are seeing in CBT CAT are seen somewhere.Di is now of the standards of GRE math.CAT has a shortage of questions.All the questions taken into database dont have statistics behind em which GMAT has.
ALSO the IIM convener for CAT CBT has proclaimed so many times in media that their ultimate aim is to make CAT to be taken round the year.What are IIMs trying to do.Venturing to test conducting business???They are just wasting their energy trying to create and enhance a test which already made.GMAT is taken round the year.Its proven,tested and accepted.

I have put in my thoughts.This i think is a rational argument.If you find a prejudice against IIMs,then forgive me.I have no problem whatever is the test format.
But what I and many like me want is transperancy.Why dont u tell us
How percentiles are calculated>
how are score normalised
how are ranks determined

I ,from all this stuff written above ,would be put in the side of paperbased test lobby group.Yes i stand by the side.Why not PBT.PBT has only disavantage of logistics for theD day.But on the other hand we get transperancy,acceptance,fair testing conditions for all.

I would welcome any comments and healthy arguments on my opinion.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by shivam mehra - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 03:45 PM
  TG sir
an honest confession!!i have been your follower since months

good thing:i have done 15 in Qa.sure with decent accuracy
cud do good in those topics which i hate the most

bad thing: cud not do few which were from my favourite topics

but not following dagny mam paid me!got only 13 atempted english

as heard from other forums todays was a tuffer paper
Rc were not cake walk

Analysis

Di: was moderate.2-3 sets were damn easy(where not much thinking was reqd.but some questions were tufer)..balanced paper


DS...not even a single question
Figures.facts/graphs.....those quesions were the easiest part of paper.so do pray that u got many

quit-next button are too far

options of answers are too far

have grip on arithmetics/alzebra

sylogism 1 question
PJ many
Pc /grammer-2-4
rcs only inferential
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by riki gupta - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 06:18 PM
  Thanks sir!! it's really a nice story.

I am also a CAT aspirant and i had been searching for good study material for long period of time.Finally my search end on totalgadha.com.when one of my friend told me "why don't you use totalgadha.com" i found the name interesting and that forced me to visit the site.So i have been visiting this site for 20-30 days and i got superb material and article here.The concept given here gives you different dimension of thinking.

Also I want best book for verbal..Can u suggest something? I don't have credit card. Can i use Axis bank's debit card for transaction?

and one more thing thanks for creating totalgadha.com
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Saurabh - confusion fused - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 07:02 PM
  Day 8 experience

Difficulty Level  (compared to cat 2004-05-06-07)

Quant : Tough
Di        : Moderate
VC       : Moderate

There were simply no issues about the hardware,software and other unfair surprises, so I would talk about the paper. Dear dear..todays paper was no cake walk!

I always take quants as my first section, then DI and then Verbal. It was a havoc for me, quants took about an hour of mine, it was the most difficult section with lot of calculation intensive problems. At a point of time I felt what kind of paper I'm giving!! I mean there was no test of intelligence in quant..no tricky questions - almost zero. Quant was made to eat the time - the puzzle type problems were so lengthy to read. It was only my self confidenc that I managed to complete both DI and VC in the next 1 hour. It left me with 14 minutes spare to look after some more questions. In that time I attempted one from DI and one from Verbal.

Total attempt:
Quant: 10
DI : 11
VC : 11

Not happy. I need not study for a month for such kind of paper - such a paper is not a test of intelliegence.angry

Regards,
Saurabh
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Mohit Chawla - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 07:11 PM
 

Here is my story of 4th Dec at DY PATIL Institute of Engineering and Tech at Pimpri, PUNE

My Attempts:

QA 18 -- moderate level, 3-4 questions were extremely basic and easy
DI 17 -- OK but time consuming
VA 15 -- moderate to tough


I reached my center 2 hours prior to exam, and had to stand in a queue for around 30 mins to check in.
We started our exam at 10:00, and I began with my tested startegy...DI - ENG -- Quant
DI was easy but time consuming,
I went on VA after 40-45 mins...
I did all ParaJumbles, and started reading a RC...and suddnely one massege came...
Testing Prometric ... Testing Prometric
and my test got stopped and screen went off. Oh God!!
and it happened to almost all of us sitting in that room. The inviligator came and said.. don't worry your test will restart in few mins and your time will get resumed from where you have left it, and then he said to few guys including me... Keep Doing your questions this time won't count. and many guys who where doing quant definitely got 10-15 mins extra becuase of this..What I cud do man , I was reading a RC!!!
The test resumed in 10 mins.. and after 2 mins of more reading, it went OFF again.. what the %&$!!
and I saw one girl sitting next to me was doing questions on her sheet and was not calling the inviligator to restart the machine again...I appreciate the intelligence she showed. She saved alot of time because of this.
Then I also thought to show some smartness.... when the test resumed for the second time.... I left english and went on to Quant and wrote around 5-6 questions on my sheet.
and then went to my Eng again...
The RC was wiped Off from my mind, I read it again and answered questions, in a hope that when the comp will get shut again, I will recover the 10 mins I have wasted (in reading the RC again + writing the Quant quest + switching time)
But after that the Comp didnt stop again... sad

I did whole paper in a very haphazard manner....
Overall, I feel, My quant and Di went good, but will be on danger line because of ENG Sectional cut Off...

TG Sir and Dagny Mam,

Please Comment1

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Vipul Patki - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 08:25 PM
 

Hi all,
Please don't read these posts if you haven't taken your slots. Your time will be better spent revising even the humble R.S. Agrawal before the C-Day.


It really is interesting to read comments about CAT on the two leading websites dedicated to MBA prep. PagalGuy students are critisising IIMs and prometric while the TG students are taking a more cautious approach, trying to enliven and boost others. I have posted my views already on this forum but then cover all the points then. That was because I  had not taken my exams then. I finally took my CAT on 1st of Dec. Mine was a very peaceful one. No glitches whatsoever. Many others have not been so lucky. Now a huge majority of students did have a great experience and Kudos to Prometric. But to opine that those who didn't enjoy this luck are crying foul and spreading rumours is a bit-more-than-tad unfortunate. I am also from software industry and I would like to bring to your attention the amount of care that is taken to make such a huge and important system live. I was a part of a huge team working on a very important defence project of a country. I was told that the product which we wil deliver would be rigorously tested for FIVE years before releasing it to live. It is perfectly understandable why such a long time period of testing. Now even if CAT/CBT is not a top-secret hush-hush project, it is vitally important for lakhs of students. Given the kind of infrastructure problems and the average Indian mentality (of leaving no stone unturned to find a short-cut to success), there should have been a testing of about two-three years.
I am also disappointed with some of my friends here at TG who have gone a bit too far in maintaining that "Good student" image. Students who are complaining of CAT are not whiners. Nor are they underprepared. For more than seven months prior to CAT, I did not know what it was like to enjoy a weekend. And it's not just students who are furious. My CAT mentor, an IIM alumnus who himself did not have much trouble on the first day, has some pretty damning views of the whole fiasco.
I also think that should the retest not be conducted, we must at least press for the disclosure of the normalisation process that they are thinking of implementing (I am not sure if they have even thought of it). This is crucial as the various slots are known to have differing difficulty levels. TG Sir, is this demand is justified?

I think the whole episode has taught us not to get overawed by the reputation of any person or institute. Also, even the great Sachin Tendulkar can't hope to score a century batting left-handed. I am afraid IIMs have been audacious enough to try and pull off this kind of stunt.

Vipul

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arun kumar - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 08:45 PM
  funny..lol........
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by A. SINGH - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 08:57 PM
 

Hello everybody...

I take this oppurtunity to thank TG sir and Dagny mam for their support in my preperation.The site has great material, please just maintain this high standard.

I wrote my cat on 3rd december (evening slot) at the janakpuri centre. The exam went off without any logistical problems. For me, DI-LR section was the toughest and the most time consuming one, as a result my attempts in this section weren't high. It was certainly not a "very easy" or "tucchha" paper as was said during the first few days of the exam .

Now coming down to my main concern, for the last few days I have been hearing that many teachers of various coaching centres are writing to IIM directors describing how this year's cat is a flop. There are "greviance conners", which have been set up on the websites. In my view, all these moves are doing nothing but stopping students from moving on and preparing for further exams.

I have great respect IIMs and strongly feel that they will come out with absolutely fair results. According to a newspaper report, IIMs have said that they are going to normalise all the papers before evaluation and anyways, they have kept the positive and the negative marks for a question still a mystery. So, they have quite a few things still up their sleeve.

One thing that has to be seriously dealt with is punishment of the students who have cheated. We had cameras mounted on walls at our centre, I  hope they were there at each centre.

@TG Sir - I beg to differ from your opinion that if Cat is to be cancelled, it would happen after this 10 day window. I feel if this step had to be taken, the cancellation would have happened on 29th or 30th november itself. The fact that they continued with this online process at that time and that they are now extending it to 8th of december means that have decided on this format for this year's selection. 

Lets see what happens....hope for the best....lot of excitiment still to come.

Thanks

Anjanjot Singh

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by pardeep sharma - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 09:04 PM
 

Finally I gave CAT!!! smile

I wont take much of space, well this is my first post here.

I gave my CAT today, 5th Dec ,2nd slot.

There were no technical glitches and everythng went quite smooth.

Paper started in time as planned.

Well as expected, paper was not that easy, but it was not difficult either cool. I'd not rate it below CAT08.

DI was ok, with more emphasis on LR.

English was as usual (like any other CAT Paper)

Initially QA sent some jitters down my spine, I cudnt get hold of it for first 15 minutes, but later i found some really easy questions.Managed to do 10-11 questions somehow.

Overall, It's very important to go thru complete paper, one may miss easy questions in a quest to solve difficult ones.

Thats all.

Thanks

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Mohit Chawla - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 09:41 PM
 

@Vipul

Thanks for your reply,

I agree to your point of testing need of this quintessential software which is turning out to be a havoc in the life of those guys who have burned the midnight oil whole year for these prestigious insti.

I think we all will agree that the way in which this examination is being conducted is giving chance to thousands of those students who might not be deserving but are just LUCKY.

When we are talking and aspiring for around 2000 IIM seats , this data does count.

I know atleat 10 -15 guys who have got more than 2.30 hours for this paper and this is my social contact , you can just imagine the impact nationwide.

When IIM decide to come up with the IDEA of online testing, I was really excited and thought it wud take them few years to come up with a real robust system... But sir why shud the 2 year testing be done on us.

I think there are various ways of Performance testing and regression testing which can be done on SIMULATED DATA and Environment. Vipul, please corect me if I am wrong.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by miss alien - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 09:50 PM
  thnks a lot T.G sir for help,
can u suggest to my friend on this:
My friend accidentally pressed "END" button while closing review screen while taking test. He was trying to end the review of test but test got ended. He was helpless at that moment and the authorities told him to leave the hall within first 30 min.....sad
can he claim on this to prometric????please help/suggest.........thanks once again.......

 
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arnab _quant-um - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 10:12 PM
 

cat xperience...5th dec 2nd slot

xam started at 4:30..phewangry..i slept:P

paper was tough..i dont know what would others hav to say to that...

qa:-time taking..i cant reveal much but not a single stuff came as i expected(samajhne wale samajh jaoo)

di:-even more time taking

va:-easier...but 3 rc's all 2-2 n 1\2 pags long..no factual qsns too sad

may be am not as good as others but still i can say its been tougher than other days....

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arnab _quant-um - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 10:14 PM
  its not about difficult or not difficult...but iims are not being fair...they should be dishing out same quality food everyday sad
Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by multi loop - Saturday, 5 December 2009, 10:54 PM
 

5th dec SLOT 2

QA 15 VA 16 DI 12

Highly low-level quant. As we have b-grade movies CAT had b-grade quant questions. TG forgive me but i cant resist letting out this quant question: Find the area of a right angled traingle whose one side and base are given. Can u beat that!

Highly simplified language in VA. I did all 3 RCs in flat 18 mins. I admit none had direct questions but the language was too simplified, as if of a class 8th English Literature book. In parajumbles only the correct answer combination made sense. As such they were very easy (5 of them).

DI: the first question to spring up was a previous yr DS question which i had done just last night. Other DS were too easy. One set which i left was verbatim of CAT 20xy. It was really the odd one out (had 3 qns accompamying) coz of toughness.

I would like to mention that last night i accidentally found around 40 questions of quant sections which have come up so far in CAT, (1 Maths Olympiad question as well which TG can testify) on a social networking site. (some of them appeared in 3 slots)

I solved them in two hrs. And the questions were anyday of a real CAT level, by any standards. Atleast 15 of them were out of an average student`s reach (10 outta even above averagae ones). So i expected some quality encounter today (atleast in the quant section). But none of them was repeated today. And if u can take the hint out of the quant question i have posted u`d be able to make the standard of today`s quant section.

I also would like to post my overall exp of the test to point out that there`s more to a testing slot than meets the eye. But i doubt if the post will survive....

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dinesh Kumar - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 12:13 AM
  @ Test Experience: Appeared in 4th Dec, Slot-II. No Glitches. I didn't find it very easy or tough. Level was moderate. @ Forum: Something in material world are 'Unique' - that have no other replacement/copy. This forum is the best example of the word. This time when whole nation is crying about the CAT CBT, it is tg.com which is providing them solace/courage/resilience (depends what you are looking for smile). I referred this site to several of my friends and all of them had the same question - "If you are not discussing the questions of the paper, then what you are doing there? Is it like YES CENTRE WAS LOOKING FABULOUS AND SOME HAD PROBS DURING TEST AND REST HADN'T?" My reply was that check it once and you will not require any explanation. And Today I found them referring this page to some of their other friends and replying the questions they were asking to me yest. big grin
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 12:40 AM
  @multi loop: not many were as lucky as u smile me included.
the level of difficulty is increasing as days are passing.
hope they standardise it by daily percentiles.

going by what most people are saying, cat online is here to stay for years to come.

IMPORTANT NOTICE-FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SENT EMAIL/MESSAGE BY PROMETRIC TO APPEAR FOR CAT AGAIN ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE TAKEN THE TEST SUCCESSFULLY. IT'S NOT MANDATORY BUT YOU CAN LEGALLY TAKE THE CAT AGAIN. YOU CAN CHOSE NOT TO AND YOU MAY CHOSE TO. ITS TO ENSURE A FAIR TEST SO TAHT YOU DON'T GET TO COMPLAIN LATER. IF THERE WAS ANY GLITCH WITH YOU OR IN AND AROUND YOU THEN IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN RE-APPEAR. PLEASE CONTACT IIM PROMETRIC AUTHORITIES FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION smile
Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by multi loop - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 01:03 AM
 

There`s a website www(dot)petitionvoice(dot)in

 

If there are any chances of a retest, they are on this website.

Log on and sign the petition.

 

(Hope this is fine TG)

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dipak Haridas - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 01:45 AM
  hi friends,
took my Test on 5th morning, at GNIT, Gr. Noida
paper was overall average, along with some sitters , there were  some really logical and few exasperating questions...

at the start of the test we were told not to touch 'review', 'mark' and 'quit' buttons, and ONLY use 'next' and 'previous' buttons, otherwise server may get hanged..
so to start with my fav section, i had to press 40 times 'next sad..
and then there was some prob owing to which our test was suspended for 15-20 min , though the timer stopped that was actually good time break to think of all those tiresome QA/DI problems.

I couldn't count my attempts, but overall a good experience...

All d best for r those taking CAT on remaining days...

one note of caution: CAT is still maintaining it's 'surprise quotient', so better don't go with any preconceived notion....

let's wait for jan 22...cool

Dipak
Communicate your CAT problems to the IIMs
by multi loop - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 02:14 AM
 

Why don`t u guys who have faced problem visit TIMEs website n communicate ur problems (with ur PROMETRIC IDs) directly to the IIMs?

It will be more beneficial than writing here.

(TG i`m not promoting any website, it`s just that they are directly forwarding the grievances to the IIMs)

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by varinder ranot - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 03:06 AM
  correct mate it wasnt easy
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 04:10 AM
  TG SIR and DAGNY MA'AM,
if you don't mind us telling then may we know when you both have your cat?
if i am not wrong then sir has his thing rescheduled right? when is it sir? smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 09:34 AM
  Hi Kamonashish,

Dagny is not writing. I got an sms yesterday from prometric about documents I have to bring in the exam. Unfortunately, they forgot to tell me WHEN and WHERE is my exam rescheduled. smile

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ritika bajaj - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 10:50 AM
  @TG Thank you smile. I read that post from my office and thought of replying it at night. but.... thank you so much, otherwise you had to change the name of this thread..lol and we would have lost it's beauty. Thanks once again smile Regards Ritika
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 11:22 AM
  Ritika, not happy about it though sad He also has a right to speak; also you people should not have jumped in sad I can understand his anger. I only deleted his post because the thread is meant for something else. 
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arun kumar - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 11:23 AM
  about to leave for ma exam in 30 minutes..any tips folks..i am .good at VA......
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arun kumar - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 11:29 AM
  important: should i carry my own water ??or is it also not allowed???"
rply asap folks..
thnx...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 11:38 AM
  Hi Arun,

Do not get stuck on a question in DI or quant if you do not find the answer in the options. Also, do not get irritated by the check in procedure. smile

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ishan ishu - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 11:44 AM
 

Arun,

You will not be allowed to carry water.. If you require, just raise ur hand they will provide you...Don't worry its a very well managed and a smooth process...

 

Best of luck... Phod k aao CAT smile

Regards,

Ishan

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arun kumar - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 11:44 AM
  Thank you TG sir.....
first reply from you ...augurs well....;)
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arun kumar - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 11:48 AM
  Thank you
appreciated!
TG sir: if i dont find the answer in options then should i choose the nearest possible answer or should i leave the question altogether? especially after investin time??
is quite difficult to decide...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ishan ishu - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 11:52 AM
 

Hey TG,

I gave my CAT on 4th Dec. I found it a bit difficult as compared to the diffculty level that people were telling for the previous 5 days.

Below are my attmepts:

QA: 12 (All correct)

VA: 16

DI: 7 or 8 i guess(4 are correct, i don't remember the rest)Gave 54 minutes to DI but don't know what happened  sad

I knew DI is my weak are so I tried to maximise in the other sections but that was what I could do in Quant. The questions were not so simple that anyobody could do 17+. What should I expect?

I think 40-45 is a good attempt. I don't know how every body is attempting 50+ out there. Itna bhi lalu paper nahin aa raha hai...

Regards,

Ishan

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by AsHwIn Drmz - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 01:06 PM
  HI .... smile

Finally i have given my Cat yesterday(5Dec,afternoon Slot).
There was so much happening around dis year .Guys...i am not taking any side..
But what i would like to say is..Just forget about all chaos which is happening around..THERE IS NOTHING WHICH U CAN DO ABOUT IT.ITS UPTO THE IIMS TO TAKE A CALL.BUT SOMETHING WHICH IS THERE IN OUR HANDS IS OUR EXAM.JUST REMAIN RELAXED,AND CONCENTRATE ON UR PREPERATION.WHAT EVER WILL HAPPEN LET IT HAPPEN ,but you shud just make sure u give your exam well...

Coming to my exam...:

It went smoothly.. 20-20-20 .total 60 Questions.
My attempts:
QA- 13/14 (Easy- moderate)

DI - 12/14 (moderate)

VA - 12-14 (MODERATE)


Though i experience a technical problem during the exam..lost 3-4 min due to that smile ...but the Prometric guys were very Quick to resolve the issue..smile.. it didn't affect much...i had time to go through all sections.. without any haze. Overall a decent papar which will test ur basics...U need not be a genious to crack it,but should be confident and good choice of questions ...
PLEASE DONT GET PERTURBED AND JUST REMAIN RELAXED.I AM SURE YOU CAN DO WELL..(atleast dats wht i feel)...Dono my attempts have been enof to get a good percentile..but i feel it has been decent..(probably)...

Overall be relaxed and cool..u will sail through .. smile

ALL THE BEST FOR THOSE WHO ARE YET TO TAKE CAT...
ROCK YOUR EXAM... smile



Ashwin
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 02:05 PM
  Hi Ishan,

I don't think you should compare your number of attempts with others, even in the same slot. The paper is not predictable in terms of level of difficulty.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Anshul Aggarwal - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 02:24 PM
 

Just gave the CAT exam today (6th Dec morning slot)

I found paper to be of moderate difficulty.

QA - 17 attempts (easy)

DI - 12 attempts (calculation intensive)

VA - 11 attempts (Usage part was easy, RC's were difficult) 

Those who have given the exam today, please post your experiences.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by miss alien - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 02:41 PM
 

Hello TG Sir...Please help...

My friend accidentally pressed "END" button while closing review screen while taking test. He was trying to end the review of test but test got ended. He was helpless at that moment and the authorities told him to leave the hall within first 30 min.....sad
can he claim on this to prometric????please help/suggest.........thanks.......

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by AsHwIn Drmz - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 03:11 PM
  HI Miss Alien...

My friend also did the same mistake...He called the promtric and old the about the incident.But they were like since the fault was on user side..and not bcos of any techical slag...nothing can be done now.

So ,nothing can be done now...



Ashwin
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Rakesh Sah - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 03:15 PM
  Hi Sir smile,

Took the test today. All in all it was a nice experience. The test was very nicely managed except the fact that I myself did not manage the test too good. I found the VA section to be a little difficult than the other two. My attempts:

QA: 14-15 (Easy -Moderate)
DI/LR: 12-13 (Easy Moderate)
VA: 12-13 (Genuine CAT style, very dense passages and that too three of them and tricky PJs). The only straightforward question I found here was fill in the blanks

Looking at others attempts (as posted on other forums) I seriously doubt my chances..lets see what CAT has to offer on the 22nd of Jan.

For now, its time to get some calculus fundas straight... smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by manish nath - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 04:07 PM
  Hi TG
took my exam yesterday(5 dec) 3.30 pm

the paper had questions of moderate difficulty and some were very easy...

but wrong choice of questions made me loose too much time

my attempts..

DI -12/13 ( shoulve attempted 2/3 more)
QA -15/16 ( shoulve attempted 2/3 more)
VA -12/13

not expecting any miracles ... will rock next year...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by loo czar - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 04:26 PM
  Hi TG...

I took CAT yesterday, dec-5 1st slot. Paper was a bit more than moderate I believe.  I must say i dint put even 5percent of devotion n hard work so of course dint do too well. I need to fight procrastination, be disciplined and patient... looks like i'll have to shift my campaign a year ahead now for I really don't want to settle for nythin inferior, irrespective of my abilities. I somehow just cant study regularly... nyway...
Quant - 50 min - 17 attempts
Di - 55 min - 16 attempts
VA - 30 min - 12 attempts

One of the questions in QA had two correct options, another had a certain ambiguity.One caselet in Di was ambiguous too. And guess what ... I attempted all of them ! Wish i cd get another chance.. though I probably dont deserve one.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Robin Jain - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 04:31 PM
  @ Ritika,
Now no comments for you...
Don't worry I am going from here, as I don't deserve to be here na?
All the Best for your future...

@ TG Sir,
I was lil bit confident that this will happen to my post (u deleted, right)
After coming from such a huge gap, I wanted to say and share alot more things here, especially with you...but...let it be...
My intention was just to help that girl who fall prey of some misunderstandings. May be in my second post I got lil bit angry by seeing the reply of(_________)
My apologies to TG sir you and ALL who got hurted by my previous two posts.

Keep Smiling,
Robin.. smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Prateek Gupta - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 04:53 PM
  Hye Everyone

This is my first official post in this forum though i have been continuously visiting it from the day CAT started.
Gave my exam today in the morning slot. The test was perfectly managed and except for a 2min delay, it was smooth going.
I gave it in my college only and to my surprise the Prometric people were my coll profs...kinda weird..

My attempts:
VA-15
DI/LR- 17
QA-18

Would like to thank TG sir, Dagny Ma'am ( who might not even know me), SE sir and last but not the least Kamal Lohia Sir for their high octane posts.

gud luck to all the aspirants...
smile keep smiling

PS: RMO section of TG is also very nice..
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by iim freak - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 05:07 PM
  @ALL who are yet to take the CAT

1) Do not get stuck on a single Q for long no matter its a sitter, as there might be wrong Q/s. As was with my slot.

Learn from My personal experience :
I wasted my 10 precious mins on it sad Attempted it in the beginning, no options matched with my ans. Marked it and came back in the last 5 mins of the test. This time with a cooler mind. But again the same story , no options matched with my answer. It was actually a sitter which i had to finally leave after spending so much time on it. sad


2) Also, do not go with pre-determined mind about the number of attempts you gonna make as the level of difficulty is not the same for all the slots.

3)Finally, a calm and composed mind will tame the CAT this time. Thats what i feel.

All the best to All!

May justice prevail!


@TG sir, according to your experience what do you think will there be any marks alloted/deducted for the Qs which are wrong ?


Best Regards
iim freak
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 05:31 PM
  Hi Robin, Stay if you can. Once you get married, you'd realize that fights are inescapable part of life but going away is not an option. smile

Everyone who is attempting the test today, please do not compare your attempts with others. I doubt they are dishing out the same paper to others.

Prateek, Yes RMO section is amazing. Again, it is labour of our love; something we want to give to school students. smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by shivz ..!! - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 06:14 PM
 
Hello TG sir and Dgany mam,

This mail/message/post is particularly for you. Pls take some time to go through it and highlight your views and give me advices on the same.

I gave the CAT exam today and I could not perform as I expected. I have been preparing for this exam for the last 1 year and I really worked very hard. I benefitted a lot from TG.com as well because I have going though the same for the last 8 months. This was my 2nd attempt for CAT which was with preparation and last time I simply wrote it just to know what CAT was all about. I am really upset and depressed with my performance and I feel totally shattered. I am sure that I am not going to clear the cut offs and not sure whether I will get decent %ile to make it to other good b skuls too. I don't even feel like writing other exams that I have applied for. What should i do now? I am so depressed that I am not even talking with my friends as well as parents on phone and even when I do so the only thing that happens is my eyes become full of tears sad I know that exam wasn't tough but still dont know y couldnt I perform well.
I dont know what happened and what went wrong. How couldn't I do well? What will happen to me now? What will I do now? Will I be ever able to MBA from a good B School? Is my hardwork wasted? Why does it happen with me only? Am I so unlucky? Was my prep flawed? Din't I give my 100%? Is it the end of everything for me now?
All such questions are eating my head like anything. I am loosing my sleep, sense and peace of mind.
Pls help me..
Pls help me..

Regards,
Shiv
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Manish Kumar - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 06:57 PM
  Respected sir/madam and my friend...
i give my test today and its as usual like cattongueout...

but one thing i want to add is online paper is good...
faculty member are good and overall great experiences...

where many student oppose online cat...
i feel IIMS done a good job
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by B a D r I Life Is sO bEauTifUL - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 07:30 PM
 

Hi TG Sir,

Today i gave. My Attempts:

QA:10 Moderate

VA:13 Moderate

DI:10+.Easy  but takes much time.

Overall Paper is easy.(Not like prev CATs)

I faced the below problems.(Unfortunately)

1.3 Questions in QA dont have answers(I am sure, definitely). I cross verified 2ce, but no use. Those are moderately easy questions. I attempted Quant first, Unfortunately those 3 are the Q's which i attempted first. It hit hard on my confidence.sad.

2. In DI Charts bars were not proper. It is Just like an eyesight testingsmile.(They used Red, Blue, Yellow, etc bars of varied widths to represent these hori.bars). I am not able to decide its value(able to do ball park estimate). After i did this there is another problem, options are close. that too comparision of fractions ..sad. But These DI sets are very easy. Just like Speed maths..

I dont know about my results, but those mistakes in the Questions were not acceptable. Some people getting extra time by restarting system(In my room ....soo..soo..).

 

TG sir/Dagny madam is there any way to report such problem to IIM?. Such problems seems to be small, but their impact is on the careers of serious aspirants(Is it not?).

Now a days CAT testing the followingevil but not limited to Aptitude, Ability to perfrom under stress, OUR PATIENCE...blah..blah..blah..smile. Please reply me. Thanks for reading...

 

Thanks,

Badri.

 

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by charles M - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 08:04 PM
  Hi Frienz

If you have faced any problem while taking CAT 2009.Do follow these steps so that your voices are being heard by respective authorities.


To get redressal from Prometric and the IIMs submit an online complaint at http://www.prometric.com/IIM-CAT/contactus.

Fill up the online form and from the drop down menu that appears under ‘Subject’, choose the ‘I was not satisfied with the
experience on the exam day’ option.In the ‘Questions or Comments’ text box put a request for re-conducting of your test
with reasons due to which you could not perform satisfactorily in the test. The ‘Reasons’ should fall under one or more of the following heads:

· Ambience (disruptions throughout the test that hampered your performance, largescale
cheating, etc.)

· Loss of time due to server issues or technical glitches

· Questions/figures/choices were not visible on the screen

· Frequent or constant disruption due to technological problems

· Compelled to submit your test before the stipulated time period because of technological or other issues

· Not being allowed to use features such as ‘Mark’ and/or ‘Review’

· Any other pertinent issue

Once you have filled up the ‘Questions or Comments’ text box, copy-paste the content on to an e-mail and send it to the
directors of all the 7 IIMs.

Their e-mail Ids are as follows:
director@iimahd.ernet.in; director@iimb.ernet.in; director@iimcal.ac.in;
director@iimk.ac.in; diroffice@iiml.ac.in; director@iimshillong.in; and
director@iimidr.ac.in.

Source:Career Launcher
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by akhilesh keshap - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 08:18 PM
  Hi TG sir

Just back after giving my exam.
First of all here is how i did in the exam.

QA + DI - 30-31
VA - 16-17

I found the paper easy today as compared to mocks and previous CAT papers.
One or two questions were repeated from previous CAT papers and overall the difficulty of the paper was really not comparable to the CAT exam.
Lot of questions had direct answers to them - completely formula based.

I would like to highlight a few things here which i thought were really against meritorious students.
I saw quite a number of students talking and sitting together as though they knew each beforehand.
Also while talking to one of the test takers after the paper i came to knew that some questions were repeated from the morning slot and this friend had given him some  answers  to that so they were pretty straight forward for him.
Overall a good experience.
Would really like to give a big thanks to TG sir and Dagny Mam for their guidance all throught this period.
Sir and Mam both of you ROCK and i really thank you from the bottom of my heart for the wonderful support that you have always provided.

Regards
Akhilesh
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arun kumar - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 08:33 PM
  My experience:
============
Well ,finally wrote the CBT cat.before leaving for the exam TG sir had advised me to leave the wrong questions..and guess what a VENN DIAGRAM question wasted my 7-8 minutes..the answers were n't remotely close to my answer.It is ridiculous that even in computer based exams such things happen...pissed!
VA Section was a cakewalk...wrappeed it up quickly .though quant was moderate .
DI was a nightmare ...all the 3 sets were time consuming..just attempted one and that too after spending considerable time...
I had heard that earlier CAT's were easy,but it was not the case in my slot on 6th .
I attempted around 35-40 questions ....
Now the million dollar question....
do i stand a chance
attempted between 15-18 in VA
10+ in quant
8-10 in LR di
TG sir please let me know whether i should fill IMT form or not..tomorro is the last date and i dont want to waste my 1600..
lol....
i think 80%+ accuracy in uant and VA
BUT in DI 60%+ i guess...
thank you for being a samaritan for thousands of students like me who do not have the privilege of joining coaching institutes....
after going through your notes i have become 50& more efficient ....i can at least clear quant cut offs ..which used to be my bete noir earlier..
thank you and please let me know by tomorrow ...
looking forward to hear from you..

JAI ho gadha!
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arun kumar - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 08:44 PM
  one more thing,at my center IMD OKHLA PHASE-2,Computers were too close to be comfortable ..felt choked and claustrobic...and they gave only 1 pencil instead of the 2 pencils ...so we had to ask for pencils many times..also at least a small water bottle could have been given instead of the SIPS that they allowed us to ,....i am not impressed with CB cat.....it just does not feel right!!
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Rohit Pathak - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 08:56 PM
 

HI All,

gave my CAT today....My overall attempt was around 45....hope to clear the cut off in all the sections....I would like to thank TG because of his inspiring lessons I was able to solve a lot of questions.....Now waiting anxiously for 22nd Jan to see the result.

Please revise previous years papers as it would be really helpful.

Regards,

Rohit

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kuldeep patel - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 09:08 PM
  I took my Exam yesterday:
QA : 18(I missed 2 questions)
DI :20
VA :20

It was a wonderful experience..
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by world rulz - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 09:14 PM
  Hi TG and Dagny ,

Just want to know how IIM's would be deriving percentile this time. Do you think they will assume that all the 20 odd papers are of the same difficulty level and have the same cut-off''s for every paper.
Or is it that they will have a difficulty factor based on which cutoff's will be different percentile for different papers.
Because i feel the difficulty level varies on paper to paper and it is very controversial to consider the same difficulty level and derive the same cut-off's.
Please throw us some light on what your thought would be on this and why???

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Subrahmanyam Kancherla - Sunday, 6 December 2009, 09:46 PM
  Hi TG sir/Dagny Mam

I have given my test today.Below is my experience.....

QA 11
DI 12
VA 14
..But I too hav faced quite a few problems.....There are three questions in Quant which does not hav answers..I do remember two of them with options..but I could not post it now (bcz...all of us know...)...saga did not end with quant..it continued in DI as well....Its quite difficult to estimate the exact value of the bargraphs that they intend..besides they used colors to represent different sectors...instead they can give the exact value on bar graph as in IIFT ......
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by ashu jain - Monday, 7 December 2009, 12:45 AM
  @shivz ..!!
Hey man,
Don't be so upset. I was in the identical state as yours when I gave my CAT exam on 3rd. I faced problem in 6 questions, 3 each in Quant and DI. So, for me paper was only of 54 questions. I don't think I trust CAT anymore and will apply in foreign Universities next year.
Cheer up and give other Exams but don't carry the burden of expectations.smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sammy badyal - Monday, 7 December 2009, 01:42 AM
  dear shiv don't feel so bad same thing happened 2 me today itself  and worst part was that i gave up my good job in august just for cat and i am also in d same dilemma now but i know one thing I won't lose hope no matter what something will surely work out.
Its better to  talk 2  ur parents u will feel good & go out 2 see a good movie pursuit of happiness will help and take a break  There r still exams to go like fms, xat,jmet and please don't lose hope.

and one last thing keep smiling He knows everything and He is there to help yousmile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Monday, 7 December 2009, 02:36 AM
  i hope  you sir, are able to take the test smile and then can have your say about how it went and about the cut-offs too smile (after cat is officially over for all)
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by sunil garg - Monday, 7 December 2009, 07:57 AM
 

hi TGites

yesterday i gave my CAT......it was morning slot @IILM Greater Noida.

reached there by 8:15....too early...............they checked candidates like we all are ancestors of Bin laden. anyway i found no technical glitches there every button was working fine......so i was ready to bell the CAT with MOUSE (signed by Hrithik Roshan.......Acer product)

now, first of all salute to those who said Cat is SNAP level.....either they are really IIM materials or they have no idea what is CAT.

I found CAT not easy at all....thogh QA was on easier side n 8 sitters were there but rest were demanding time and cross check.

VA ......ooooffff especially RC too tough and with options tooo close to choose right.....i think u need hell lot of time to crack it.

n last DI ....my God.....what they wanna to prove by giving line and bar graph without any values .....they wanna to check the precision of our eyes?..........LR one question per caselet,,,confusing one...

MY final attempts:

QA 15

VA 14

DI 10

was playing for IIMs ONLY

is there any chance TG/Dagny/TGites

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Shantanu Banerjee - Monday, 7 December 2009, 10:58 AM
  Hi TG Sir/Dagny Mam and all Tgites,
Gave CAT on 6th Dec 2nd slot and here is my experience....
The wait from 1:00 to 2:30 was too long ....slept at my desk for 45 mins....exam began at 2:30(invigilator was scolded for this by prometric guyz ,disturbing everyone).After i ended the tutorial my page displayed resume exam.....time remaining 0:00....called the proctor she restarted my system...had to wait 10 mins....everyone had started their exam by then....after 10 mins started my exam with the Quant section....solved 5 ques in 15 mins....felt that i was giving my 8th standard class test....it was so easy....had practised CAT papers from 99 - 08 and that really helped in some questions.One of the questions was wrong....padhte hi chor diya....all in all easiest math paper i ever answered......next came DI section....maine socha yeh ho kya raha hai.....how can they make such an easy paper..???was really careful in this section as to maintain accuracy...cruised through the section as well.....then came english.....time remaining 40 mins.....read 1st para of all RC's and the questions....sab tangent tha....all inferential questions.....started with other questions.....solved them carefully....and then 20 mins remained.....started reading an RC was really confusing....answered one question.....started reading another RC....and then nightmare began....everyone in my room had finished their paper....and started calling the proctor whether they should click on OK button or not after their exam ended....dimaag kharaab ho gaya mera....everyone was getting on my nerves.....i closed my ears and tried to concentrate but just could not focus.....had attempted 10 questions by then....had a target of attempting atleast 16....but my brain stopped working by then....marked option C blindly to the questions of one RC.....paper ke aakhri me dynamite chupa rakhe the IIMs....all in all a good experience.....

My attempts
QA - 16 (100 % accuracy)
DI - 14 (100% accuracy)
VA - 10 + 3 ( 80% + 0% accuracy)

Thanks TG Sir and Dagny mam for everything.....!!!
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by srikant dv - Monday, 7 December 2009, 12:20 PM
 

Hi all,

Whew, what an experience.

I had my CAT 6th dec afternoon slot. Had a lot many apprehensions in my mind regarding paper loading, time of waiting, overall difficulty of paper etc.

It was an out of the world perfect experience. Everything was pretty smooth..

About the paper, it was pretty much "very easy"-"easy" level paper. I am a bit too weak in quant, but could do 15 ques all correct.

 VA was a cakewalk - did 20 ques in this one am not too sure about a couple of them but rest i feel are right smile

DI too was easy - people have been saying many calculations were needed for them. That was not my case atleast. Solved 20 here too.

was left with about 40 min after attempting 55 ques. I felt few quant questions were wrong so I left them as it is and got couple of reviews of the whole paper in the remaining time.

 

Overal pretty satisfied with the paper but my only thought is how could cat reduce the questions and make the paper easy . I had solved few ques in quant the night before exam( Though I am not complaining smile )

 

 

To add a few things about which people ahve been complaining -

1) Pencils not enough or no sharpener - There was no need for that. If the paper I got was similar to others' then one pencil should be more than sufficient. It is not a subjective test after all. One is expected to do the calculations and problem solving with as much less use of writing material as possible.

2) Very few pages for solving - Again same as above. Four pages are more than sufficient. If you need more pages then prepare for GATE not CAT.

3) Chairs not good - This a logistics issue which CAT or prometric cannot handle. Imagine yourself giving a paper opencil test and the desk you got is full of holes, no one makes a cry then, so why now?

 

Overall, as a manager(which we all want / hope to be) there will be amnt situation wher circumstances would be out of your hand/ control, crying won't help just working your way out will do any good.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by manjushaa srinivasan - Monday, 7 December 2009, 12:39 PM
  I feel bad that i'm posting late.I took my exam on november 29th session II in JNTU,Hyderabad.it was a horrible experience and that has nothing to do with the exam.first no indication as to where the cat testing facilities were inside the huge campus.second when they took the roll call,my name wasn't there!totally the names of four candidates were missing and none of us faced any hassels while filling the form.i never even got any mail from prometric relating to any incomplete application and they started checking in everyone.we had no idea what the time was.the 4 of us wrote our names,test site code and registration no on a sheet of paper and the authorities dialled the number given in the voucher and informed about the problem after trying for the n th time.after what seemed like ages we were asked to go another testing facility within the campus.so many other people had been given the wrong code in the admit card.while checking in,my PAN card wasn't accepted but i had also taken my passport(thanks to my dad for the advice) and they let in for the photo to be taken.the biometric testing was a comedy.it took several attempts to get it right and the program was corrupted.u put ur left hand index finger and the comp screen indicates right and vice versasmile.finally we entered the room and sat in front of the PCs.i was terrified to see my photo.it was the angriest face i had ever seensmile!we had to wait for a while before the prometric guys entered the username and password.first time he did it in my system,it appeared'u have run out of time'.i got freaked out.he shut the system.again second time he entered the IIM validation code,comp got hanged!third time again after the shut down-restart ritual finally i could start my exam.got 2 Virus threats while taking the exam.full 135 minutes full throttle!!!!we had to keep requesting for pencil and sharpener.get it sharpened to the maximum possible extent before the exam starts itselfsmile.btw only 1 scratch paper comprising 4 sheets is provided.20-20-20 questions is the break up.i attempted 12 each.i am not sure how it turned out.couldn't keep any 15 minute buffer.i worked really hard for this exam but not sure if i have put in my best.was a bit shaken after all that confusion.i really wish that after all the efforts that students have put in,their exams would be conducted in a tension free manner.i hope ur exams will turn out great.all the best to u all!!!
PS-TG sir and dagny ma'am if u find anything in my post objectionable,pls delete it.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kuldeep patel - Monday, 7 December 2009, 12:58 PM
  I have request to TG sir...
Please start a thread where everyone can put number of attempts he or she made....
It will give broad view about the cutoffs...
Thanks
Kuldeep
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Monday, 7 December 2009, 01:07 PM
 

Kuldeep,

How did you write the exam ? Hope you done it well.

Why dont you share your experience and attempts made ?

-Sreeni

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kuntal chattrejee - Monday, 7 December 2009, 01:25 PM
  Had my Cat today...
Attempts:
QA-->17(though found some questions with erroneous options,2-3 logical guesses(if guess logic is wrong then i am gone .)
DI-->19 (may be i am safe with no bad guesses cool)
VA-->15-16(found tricky and tough...My weakest area..God knows about my performancesad)

OA-51-52

Ready to fire(with water tongueout) in JMET.
XAT--->please save me.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kuldeep patel - Monday, 7 December 2009, 01:28 PM
  I have already posted my attempts...
I took exam at 5 dec.
QA: 18 (Very Tough)
DI: 20 (very easy)
VA: 20 (moderate)
Everything went very smooth... I hope i will cross cutoff is each subject..
Math Was very tough.. I used to attempt 18 questions in 35 min in TIME... but in Real exam, I attempted 18 questions in 60 min.... Even after this  I left 2 questions....

Kuldeep
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Monday, 7 December 2009, 02:13 PM
 

@Kuldeep, Good.. You will surely clear all cut offs. Mine is QA: 13 DI:17 VA:16  In QA, I did less but checked out for accuracy. It was good.

- Sreeni.

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by total loser - Monday, 7 December 2009, 04:35 PM
 

I took CAT on 4th December in the morning slot. I, along with five of my friends had chosen the same slot and the same venue so that we could discuss and find out our accuracy. I thought we would get the same paper, but sadly, my VA section was totally different from the other five guys (DI and QA were same for the six of us). Here are my attempts:

QA : 14 (100% accuracy)

DI : 17 (100% accuracy)

VA : 17 (i guess accuracy 80%)

If anyone of you took the same slot, please tell me wat do you think the difficulty level was for each section on the scale of

v.easy - easy - moderate - hard - v.hard

and wat do you think the cutoffs would be. Also, please let me know wat percentile should i expect so that i could buy only the relevant forms. Is there any chance of getting (any) IIM call?

please reply.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kuldeep patel - Monday, 7 December 2009, 04:44 PM
  How u know ur accuracy??
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by arnab das - Monday, 7 December 2009, 06:15 PM
 

people are cheating and they are very proud of that...!!!!

Best of Luck guys!! More "Sat..." &"...yam"will be the outcome....evil

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Slim Shady - Monday, 7 December 2009, 06:52 PM
  some ppl are 100% sure of their accuracy...either they have razor sharp memory or .......
read between the lines.....
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Teja Bond - Monday, 7 December 2009, 07:12 PM
 

@ arun kumar

i totally agree with you. But i know many people doing it and i don't see any harm in this. I actually wish if there was some way to figure out my percentile score. but IIMs are making us have to purchase a lot more college application forms than needed. I bet the total increase in turnovers due to sells of additional forms this year will be in crores of rupees. and all that just for the convinience of the paper-setters.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Robin Jain - Monday, 7 December 2009, 07:22 PM
  You are correct TG Sir, going away from problems is not the solution.
I'll stay here in this website...and try to help those in need, time to time.
Keep Smiling...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by amrita Purkayastha - Monday, 7 December 2009, 08:06 PM
  Hello TG sir

(Apologies for posting this query here)

Do we have any course/lesson on higher Maths ( derrivatives, integration etc) here on TG ? Need to brush up these basics for JMET.

Regards
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by shashank shukla - Monday, 7 December 2009, 08:32 PM
 

i took my cat on 6th dec,evening slot..

total attempts :41

verbal-15

quant-15

DI-11

But i can't approximate regarding my final score..... it will be a wild wild guess.....

so how m i supposed to apply to any college, when i don't know what is my tentative score... how much vil i score approx???? what vil be my percentile range....

basically i know almost nothing!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Slim Shady - Monday, 7 December 2009, 08:45 PM
  @ shashank n teja
------------------
Yeah folks as die hard MBA aspirants we will have to continue shelling out wads of notes....lol...even i a m stuck in the same rut..becoming poorer day by day....my saving have hit an all time low fella..
lol....
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Slim Shady - Monday, 7 December 2009, 08:48 PM
  some1 give me a STimulus Package..;)
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by shashank shukla - Monday, 7 December 2009, 09:08 PM
 

i guess there is no solution arun........

can anyone tell the diff between politicians & so called B school management???

most of the politicians r illiterate and B school management people are highly qualified....

the common thing among them is corruption.........

yeah that's right..... they both r money craving machine..........

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Ronak kabani - Monday, 7 December 2009, 10:13 PM
  Now its my turn to write down my experience
as far as arrangements goes everything ws perfect
no issues at all
rgdng paper

my attempts
QA 15(+-1) 12 odd convincing couple of intelligent guesses
DI same as tht of QA 15(+-1)
VA - 17

Near abt 40 convincing attempts and 6-7 intelligent guesses using options elimination strategy

Hoping 4 the best

Ronak smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Psycic Gadha - Monday, 7 December 2009, 10:45 PM
  Took it 7th morning
QA 10/11
DI 17 tongueout
VA 17 smile

Didn't find the QA today very easy. DI was pretty easy, VA not that hard.

Any light on the QA part ?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by think tank - Monday, 7 December 2009, 11:24 PM
  HY,,Kuntal...!!
  pls do u give me any site name on that i can found Jmet papers ..for 2010(sample paper)....>?
  Thanks  budy.......
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Ronak kabani - Monday, 7 December 2009, 11:28 PM
  generally u get all stuffs on
esnips.com
so try it
Ronak
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by manish nath - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 07:57 AM
  hi Tg sir
i wanna know if u have any info on IIM's keeping a check on the integrity of CAT conducted this year.. there has been a lot of cheating in some centers.... please let me know if u have any info regarding what will happen to those who have cheated and were not caught at the centers...

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kuldeep patel - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 09:18 AM
  @Manish..u saw them when they were cheating?? or u also part of those centers...
Dont spread rumors... Nothing wrong has happend.. only u type of people spreading rumors...
Stop crying.. ok
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Dipu Paswan - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 09:34 AM
 

Thank you TG Sir and Dagny Mam!!!

You both and many TGites being the drive for me to appear for CAT third time.

I m visiting d site since 2007,appeared for CAT on 7th morning...

Starting off I failed to get my biometric test- I feel I m from different planet..lol..

Out of only 20 candidates, 8 of them appeared for the exam at our center..

My attempts

QA - 9 ( Quant I found a bit difficult)

DI -  11 (Moderate)

VA - 17 (Moderate - Passage and question on the same page helped a lot)

Any hope TG Sir - predictions for the CUT off or fourth time awaiting...

Dipu

 

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by anil pal - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 10:53 AM
  Dear Sir,

All those blogs and other mba sites are not there to deride IIMS they are basically to fight against the injustice or unfairness that has happened in CAT-2009

and sir the way you look towards iims as ' My Institutions ' in a similar way we look at CAT as 'my exam'. Though sure very few of us do make every year to their dream colleges but we all respect this exam for its fairness, competition and above all integrity.

You as a teacher love other things about but most of the aspirants love CAT for the spirit of competition.

Now when these basic qualities of the exam are being compromised then we have to raise voice. Offcourse IIMS can choose not to hear us but this is democracy and we have every right to show our cause in every possible way.

All other threads and coaching institutes and blogs are right on their side and they are not their to deride IIIMS They all know that it was a great task to organize it Online but we cant compromise on Fairness in any way.

Technology should be used as means to an end and not to be the end itself. We all want a FAIR system whether ONLINE or PP we dont care.

and i know sir that no one can disagree with this thing

ETHICS MUST COME BEFORE EVERYTHING.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Rohit Joshi - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 12:26 PM
 

Hello,

I started using your site just today and came across this post.I have certain queries regarding the same.

I gave the CAT this time because i wanted to get an overview of the online experience before I make a serious attempt next year.

From my experience i feel the CAT this time was nowhere close to being fair.Luck played more of a factor this time than before when the exams were written.The paper which i got had no questions on tds,profit n loss,alligation or probability!!English section was full of arrangements of sentences.

As the exam was stretched over a couple of days,the kind of paper u received was completely dependant on how lucky you are while choosing the slot.

From my discussion with fellow candidates I feel the level of the questions wasn't maintained through out and neither were the topics covered.Also the testing engine was full of flaws as has been already widely publicised in the media.

You must also keep in mind that most students also apply to a variety of institutions besides the IIM's .So i feel that a student is correct if he or she wants to know how well he has fared in the paper in comparison to his peers and your forums provide an excellent platform for the same.

And lastly as evryone has already said before me we live in a free country and I feel if something is wrong it should be pointed out.Students are definitely angry at how the CAT was conducted this year and rightly so.These are kids who are harboring IIM dreams since an year now.Not only kids but also professionals who had their hopes up this year.

Who knows? since your site is such a popular one,Prometric and IIM's may take notice of the discontent among the candidates through it.

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Rajeev Raghu - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 12:39 PM
  Hi All,

I wrote my exam on Dec 6th , 2nd slot @ Veltech, Chennai. It was a very smooth affair. I had absolutely no problem at all. The only pain was that the center was too far (35km). Also the 1 hr wait was a bit irksome. I mean you have to sit there for an hr doing nothing ! The qn paper was OK. Q and V were doable. DI was long. My attempts were around 45. Questions did get repeated from previous year papers !!
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by manish nath - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 01:05 PM
  @kuldeep

i aint spreading any rumors...i knw ppl who i dunt wanna take names of have cheated in the exam....their scratch sheet is the proof of that...they have attempted many questions for which they havent scratched anything....
i aint crying or anythin.... i dun care for such ppl...but i do think that deserving talent will be lost this year....for sure...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kuldeep patel - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 01:34 PM
  @Manish
How they cheated...
1) did they have books??...
2) did they ask to their neighbors??if so .. how come their neighbors tell them .?? did all of them have questions in same sequence??

3)did u see their scratch book thoroughly??
4) How did u verify that they attempted questions but did not do any calculation??
5) Why u were peeping in their scratch book instead of doing ur own questions.

do u have answers of these questions??
 
 
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by mohil mittal - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 02:02 PM
 

I had my exam on 6th in lucknow. Had a good time taking test. There were no problems whatsoever in successfully attempting CAT in its new avtar.

My attempts

Quant:18

DI:15

Verbal:12

Total=45

I would lyk to acknowledge ma sincere thanks to TG nd DG and hats off to every compulsive discussion i have read on TG.com in due course enabling me to improve ma attempt.

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kuntal chattrejee - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 02:14 PM
  hello TG sir,

Can you provide some articles for QA and LR section for JMET....Adv QA specially..It will help us a lot...thanks.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by charles M - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 02:55 PM
  To kuldeeep

We are lucky since we didn't have any technical glitches while writting the Exam.but that doesn mean you can simply close ur eyes and say CAT is conducted in fair manner.then, why are director of every premier institute(CAT Coaching Institue) worried about the manner in which test is conducted. they have personally taken the test and thay have written all the flaws to the IIMs.have they ever done this all these years. No definitely not. since because we have problem we should come together and thats wat manish is trying to convey...

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 03:02 PM
 

Hi All,

Finally CAT-2009 CBT is over (may be as of now). Ball jumped into IIM's court. So they have to kick it in whichever way they want.

Good to see that many people claiming their best. That would always be best. After all CAT is just one hurdle to the india's prestigious B-Schools called IIMs. So we need to concentrate on the GD & PI with a positive note that we would clear cut-offs (forget about numbers).

Lets start GD here...This also increases your writing skills (which is part of IIMA selection process)....

I am not so tired in selecting first subject for GD ... so lets start.....

Topic: CAT-2009 - Is there any mismanagement ?

Rules:
1.You need to format the sentences very grammatically, formally, neatly and fairly. (as much as you can)
2.Should not scold anyone individual. In other words, just object them with proper reason.
3.You can have assumptions. But not roumors. There is slight and noted difference.
4.TG Sir or Dagny may give points (a request from this gadha). waiting for that smile


Here is my stand:

Finally CAT-2009 is over. It is the first attempt by IIMs to accomadate nearly 2,40,000 people in the selection process for IIMs. Over all it went fine with few gliches.

In my view, when we see from earth, the moon appears to have small marks on it. But he has his own standards and he will never come closer to earth. He will always be on top. The same  can be applied to IIMs and CAT.

We had problems for aspirants who appeared on the first 2 days and notedly not for all. Prometric claimed its because of Virus Attack. To be frank it can be prevented with regular monitoring. This is definitely mismanagement from the Prometric. Aftermath situation was very nice just because IIMs entered into the solution. The same Prometric personnel made it success without any gliches. This is nothing but learning from lessons.

I dont think so there is something to blame IIMs in this. "Faith" places major role in dialy life. Business is not exception from that. So IIMs had/have(not sure about 'will have') faith on their business partners called Prometric. There is a fair example for this. In the press conference, one of reporter asked about the noice in the examination hall by prometric personnel. The convenor's reply, "It can not be avoidable even in any format of the exam. This is moral and fair support needed from the individual. And we can not even blame Prometric for it.". It gives clear base called "FAITH" which lies behind the business.

When comes to claims by aspirants such as

Extratime: Our perception before 28th Nov was that CAT exam going to start at the sametime throughout the country. This could be wrong. Because when it is CBT, which calculates the time on its own, we need not to worry about the start time or end time of the exam, provided there were no bugs in the software. ( I strongly believe they use same code for all other kinds of exams like GMAT, GRE etc.. So probability of this is very less). This is the only reason that can be considered, if true, to cancel the exam.

Repeated Questions: Many are saying repeated questions are there. I would like to ask every individual, "When IIMs clearly stated not to disclose of the exam content, How do we judge that there are repetition of questions ? Who revealed it first and who compared the first with the next and found both were same ?"

Standard of Questions: CBT is a bit unreadable version compare to paper based test. So I believe that there are easily readable questions ( which we can read and understand what is expected with no time), but not so easy to answer (need perfection in preparation or atleast commonsense).

The examination process was recorded in terms of video and audio. So they can verify easily what was happened in exam hall. IIMs also receive all our worksheets which are valid for verification. That is why they alloted time gap of 45 days to announce result even for computer based test.


Finally, I admit, "IIMs have full control over the exam. They can easily normalize the things based on reasonable parameters. They still have scope to set it at right, if something wrong. And at last, IIMs are fully autonomous institutions which can eliminate anyone without notice. We dont have any rights to fight with them. We can simply request them and need to stand in stands as a cricket viewer."

smile

My stand is over.. its your turn.

You can bluntly say your opinion based on the above rules.

-Sreeni.

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 03:05 PM
  How to file a complaint

1. Go to http://www.prometric.com/IIM-CAT/contactus.

2. If you do not get a convincing reply through Step 1 and if you suffered any of these problems:

* Ambience (disruptions throughout the test that hampered your performance, large-scale cheating, etc.)
* Loss of time due to server issues or technical glitches
* Questions/figures/choices were not visible on the screen
* Frequent or constant disruption due to technological problems
* Compelled to submit your test before the stipulated time period because of technological or other issues
* Not being allowed to use features such as 'Mark' and/or 'Review'?
* Any other pertinent issue



Write all relevant details and send e-mails to all seven IIM directors: director@iimahd.ernet.in, director@iimb.ernet.in, director@iimcal.ac.in, director@iimk.ac.in, diroffice@iiml.ac.in, director@iimshillong.in, and director@iimidr.ac.in.


3. If you fail to receive a favourable reply, or no reply at all for a long time from the IIMs too, you have the option of approaching the relevant high court for remedial action.

Source
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kuldeep patel - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 03:27 PM
  How can anybody believes in cheating... there can not be any sort of cheating..
I agree that there may be some technical issue... Even I had some technical issue...I had to restart system twice... It does not mean... i must start blaming...
There was a girl next to me. .. from window some light was coming in the screen... She complained 4-5 times for this... and pometric guys changed her seat... and in one forum i read that she was complaining abt it... My screen also had the same issue.. but i did not complain.... wht is the use of making issue out of small things...

Kuldeep
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Rakesh Sah - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 03:32 PM
 

TG Sir,

Did you get any update on your rescheduled testing date?

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Pranav Baj - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 05:01 PM
  this was ma first cat and I am not feeling that great abt it..
the most frustrating part of this was the wait one needs to do before the xam starts.... its pathetic.. and i dun wanna share any information regarding questions as well... in all paper pencil pattern will be much better........

the only advice ll give is
dun click on anyother thing other than previous next
thats it
keep it simple and stupid

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by andrew cole - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 05:15 PM
 

@kuldeep
may be u need to check updates about CAT everyday. Cheating in centers have been reported at many places. eg http://www.dnaindia.com/academy/report_copy-cat-widespread-cheating-reported-in-city_1319443 

.. lets hope after doing(58 questions) so well , u get call from all IIMs. It will be a shame not to convert any such call into an actual admission .. and dont worry what manish is trying to say. His appeal is genuine .

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 05:59 PM
 

@ Andrew , Kuldeep, Manish

It may be correct. But prometric recorded both video and audio of examination. So IIMs can be easily caught such culprits. Even for GMAT exam also no one (including invigilators) would be there in hall except aspirants. But aspirants wont talk because they know that they would be caught.

May be few people done it like that without having fair idea on CAT exam's intensity. They might have felt it like Lab exams in College.

Suppose, if Prometric does not give any video to IIMs, they would definitely call for reexam only for that session aspirants.

What do you say ?

- Sreeni.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by manish nath - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 07:32 PM
  @kuldeep

i wasnt giving my CAT on that day...its just that i knw those guys,....they exchanged their answers....thats y i said their scratch sheet is the proof....the integrity of this exam has been hampered untill IIM;s find a way to catch the cheats...talent has been compromised..
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Prateek Gupta - Tuesday, 8 December 2009, 09:02 PM
  (2hr 15 mins per session...2 sessions in a day...10 days...)/centre...der are more than 120 labs...do the math..who is so jobless to view the recorded videos..although i sincerely believe that IIMs will adroitly extricate themselves from the problems they have landed into..after all, they produce the best managers across the globe
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kuldeep patel - Wednesday, 9 December 2009, 09:21 AM
  @andrew cole
I am not worried about anything... I have worked hard and God will pay for it.

Kuldeep
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Shrey Sagar Sharma - Wednesday, 9 December 2009, 11:19 AM
 

Hi,

i happened to read the news paper today morning. thinking that i should start for the GD and PI exercise. but to my surprize there was a news on page 18 of Times of India.

IIM's are thinking of conducting a retest.

Is It TRUE??

ePaper Lite - Times of India Publications

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Debdyuti Datta Gupta - Wednesday, 9 December 2009, 01:23 PM
 

hey,

I checked in the chennai edition of TOI. There is nothing abt the re-CAT 2010. But the link provided above says so. This is confusing!!! |B-(

Oh... This is the first time I am taking CAT... and there is so much of concerns and issues!!!

Even some inititutes like IMI, SP jain are also thinking of taking their own test... Any input please ....

Regards

Debdyuti

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by AsHwIn Drmz - Wednesday, 9 December 2009, 01:55 PM
 

HI DDG,

The article has come in TOI ,hyderabad edition smile and its diffrent from chennai edition...Coming to Retest...just realax..there is nothing in our hands its all upto IIMs to take a call on it.So no pint geting purturbed.

Just chill...and Concentrate on other exams which are nearing smile

 

Thanks,

Ashwin 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kaustubh chaudhary - Wednesday, 9 December 2009, 02:02 PM
 

My Cat Story as posted on PG

Exam centre: Crescent Engg College,Chennai 3:30 slot.
1) How many attempts you have made?
VA: 20(I think one can't make proper attempts here)
DI: 20(18 proper 2 guesses)
Quant: 20( 17 proper 3 guesses.Many questions were wrong or had wrong answers or 2 correct options.I solved one set theory question assuming the question missed some words and got ans as one of the options)
OA : 60(Took a Gamble)
2) Your last mock score? If you are there at the Mock Scores Repository (Mock Scores Repository 2009!), please provide the link here.
AIMCAT 1022:97.xx
Normally varies b/w 94-99 with some occassional blips(<90)
3) How was your experience of the test?
No glitches or malpractices.Errror free.very good experience.But the security guard was a big as***le.He always looked at me as if i were an Al-Qaeda operative.Of course he was the boss of the day.Was so tensed abt the exam that went to loo 4 times
4) What was the surprise element for you?
No surprises.The paper was very easy,quite unlike CAT.But the problem is one can get complacent and make quite a few mistakes.Even I am scared abt my accuracy as i've taken a big risk.Accuracy will be the key.Complacency can be your nemesis.

5) Any tips to handle the computer based exam better?
No problems with exit/end test button.One needs to be blind to click that button.But hte programmer who designed the interface should be given an award.There is one problem with clicking the answer options.Even if you click parallel to radio button it is selected/deselected.
6) Your overall analysis of the exam. Toughness, sections etc.
VA-RC's were inferential but not difficult except one.Probably AIMCAT RC's were a tad easier but compared to previous CAT papers VA was really easy.
PJ's were easy.PC was also moderate.FIB's though were quite tough,very close choices.But overall in this paper this section was the toughest and hence it'll be a make-or-break section.
QA-12-14 q's were easy and rest were moderate.No PnC and Probability so I took a liking to the section.Lots of algebra and arithmetic.But still I couldn't solve 3 Q's properly.So worked with options and marked something.Found 1 q repeat from cat 05
DI was very easy.I couldn't believe I had done so many so i rechecked some of the questions.But I am scared abt my accuracy coz i mess up easy DI papers.
I had attempted 55 q's in 2 hrs.after that i started the guesswork and revision

7) Any other query or something you would like to share with us.
Dont go with preconceived number of attempts. Accuracy is the key.Even I could attempt only 55 properly rest were guesswork.My accuracy isn't quite good,plus i had some time left so tried to cushion myself.No need to take undue risks.If you attempt 50 q's with 90% accuracy that is also quite good.


IMHO this time CAT score won't be a major factor.Acads,work-ex,job profile will have a bigger share in deciding the calls.So stop worrying if you haven't attempted bigtime.This paper has brought lots of people on same platform.

PS:Thanks to Dagny and TG I made significant improvements in all 3 sections in the run up to the cat.I was always unhappy with the quality of verbal q's in aimcats and used to come to TG.com to solve the verbal tests here.The sectional test from TG were immensely beneficial in improving my sectional scores.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Slim Shady - Wednesday, 9 December 2009, 04:49 PM
  IIFT 2009
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http://www.iift.edu/iift/MBA_2010_12_Result.pdf
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by deepak gupta - Wednesday, 9 December 2009, 06:02 PM
 

@ slim shady

the sys. prompts msg. "the file is damaged and could not be repaired"

is it so????

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Slim Shady - Wednesday, 9 December 2009, 07:28 PM
  no..it is not...go to IIFT homepage in that case...
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Debdyuti Datta Gupta - Thursday, 10 December 2009, 08:40 AM
 

Hi,

http://www.catiim.in/ has published:

"The first phase of computerized CAT 2009 concluded on December 8, 2009. Most candidates completed the test successfully in the first slot allotted to them; of the candidates who could not complete the test successfully in the first slot allotted to them, most have already been accommodated in another slot to take the test. However, there are still some candidates (numbering a few thousand) who could not take the test due to genuine reasons and test has not been rescheduled for them yet. A new test date will be announced in about a fortnight to provide an opportunity to ALL such candidates to write the test.

CAT 2009 was an instance of computerized testing for the largest number of candidates in the time span of ten days. The tests were delivered through 361 labs, in 104 locations spread across 32 cities. Every edition of the test involved use of over 17000 computers. It was therefore a mammoth task being attempted for the first time. We regret the inconvenience caused to candidates due to disruptions experienced in the conduct of the test, particularly in the first three days of testing.

Candidates have reported through various channels the nature of disruptions faced that include pressing of End button prematurely, malfunctioning of computer on which the test was taken by the candidate, missing graphs & charts, etc. We have put in place a process to identify and assess the impact of various types of disruptions noticed and reported during the entire testing period; these are being addressed to ensure fairness in testing.

We would also like to state that test papers have been designed by experts to ensure that no one gets an unfair advantage. Statistical methods are commonly used to equate difficulty levels across the test papers.

We would like to assure all concerned that the outcome of the process on completion would be fair to all candidates. "

 

Thus I think no more reCAT....

Regards

Debdyuti

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Thursday, 10 December 2009, 12:17 PM
 

PRESS RELEASE - December 9, 2009

The first phase of computerized CAT 2009 concluded on December 8, 2009. Most candidates completed the test successfully in the first slot allotted to them; of the candidates who could not complete the test successfully in the first slot allotted to them, most have already been accommodated in another slot to take the test. However, there are still some candidates (numbering a few thousand) who could not take the test due to genuine reasons and test has not been rescheduled for them yet. A new test date will be announced in about a fortnight to provide an opportunity to ALL such candidates to write the test.

CAT 2009 was an instance of computerized testing for the largest number of candidates in the time span of ten days. The tests were delivered through 361 labs, in 104 locations spread across 32 cities. Every edition of the test involved use of over 17000 computers. It was therefore a mammoth task being attempted for the first time. We regret the inconvenience caused to candidates due to disruptions experienced in the conduct of the test, particularly in the first three days of testing.

Candidates have reported through various channels the nature of disruptions faced that include pressing of End button prematurely, malfunctioning of computer on which the test was taken by the candidate, missing graphs & charts, etc. We have put in place a process to identify and assess the impact of various types of disruptions noticed and reported during the entire testing period; these are being addressed to ensure fairness in testing.

We would also like to state that test papers have been designed by experts to ensure that no one gets an unfair advantage. Statistical methods are commonly used to equate difficulty levels across the test papers.

We would like to assure all concerned that the outcome of the process on completion would be fair to all candidates.

 

That is why IIMs are "India's Prestigious Institutes"

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by nupur arora - Thursday, 10 December 2009, 12:18 PM
  Thumbs up to IIMs smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Shantanu Banerjee - Thursday, 10 December 2009, 03:43 PM
  Thank You Prometric....Hope everything becomes transparent to the public.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by NAHUSH PHADKE - Friday, 11 December 2009, 01:22 AM
 

Hello TG Sir And Dagny mam,

                                    Untill now i was not believing the speculations and experiences of some of cat aspirants about the leakage of the questions of cat 2009 paper.but after seeing the link provided at TIME website students grievencies section posted by students,stating clearly many questions which actually apppeared in the different slots.                         I think we students are being made fool of by giving our exams as per regulations and rules stated by PROMETRIC as per NDA.Now also i will not post the direct link here as i want to obey the rules of this forum and NDA agreement, but i feel very sad and betrayed as we have burnt our nights oil and have done all needed hard work for this very exam and a D day and such a thing appears which show us that some of the students were knowing the nature,pattern,actual questions asked previuosly in different slots some of which were repeated in furthur slots .although my cat exam went without any technical glitches and any delay and had solved exam cofidently,i will support the scraping of this exam.

                                just wanted to bring the surprise to your observation(although you may be knowing it before hand).please forgive me if i had written any thing violating the rules and regulations of this forum but cant keep this pain upto myself......

                                                           regards

                                                      Nahush

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by rajdeep choudhuri - Friday, 11 December 2009, 08:27 AM
  Hi Guys,
Came across a forum in pagalguy where someone has actually found out the link where the CAT questions were being leaked after each slot.Check this forum ''Protest against CAT 2009 on Sunday @ IIMs'' in pagalguy and the url to the source of questions is mentioned in one of the posts. The puys are planning to take the same thing to the media.Request all of u to come out and support them.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by andrew cole - Friday, 11 December 2009, 09:35 AM
 

@kuldeep

thats good for you..but closing your eyes doesnt make you invisible . ryt??

There was cheating reported and people actually rebooted their systems to get extra time(some got upto 40 min extra). So do u believe now that these things happened or not? thats what the point we were discussing . what shall be done with these candidates(cheaters)?? We just want answer from prometric and IIM guys, exactly wat they are planning to do with them??

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Debdyuti Datta Gupta - Friday, 11 December 2009, 11:35 AM
 

Well, I just read the Pagal guy forum.

Many questions have been repeated, even one my friends told me that she got some 3 questions same as her friend. Now my question is:

WHY DID IIMs REPEATED THE QUESTIONS??? I KNOW THERE WERE 21 SLOTS BUT PLEASE DON'T TELL ME THAT IIMs ARE RUNNING SHORT OF QUESTIONS.

THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT BY ACCEPTING MERE FEW LINES THAT "I WONT SHARE THE QUESTIONS" WILL NOT STOP ANY ONE FROM SHARING IT.

May be some sites and institues are particular about the posts and deleting the one which are agianst the norms. But what about the questions being shared and discussed offline. Among friends/ colleagues etc....

Any input please...

Regards

Debdyuti

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by " S " . - Saturday, 12 December 2009, 08:31 AM
  hello ,
 i got two questions from previous year, I had earlier solved them, so I just selected the answers( smiled) and moved  ahead.
Look what they have done to our cute CAT
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by nupur arora - Saturday, 12 December 2009, 12:11 PM
  Well in that case Mr S, most probably it is now time for IIM guys to smile for what has been noticed is that though previous year questions are being repeated, they are not exactly the same. There is as slight modification that can only be noticed while reading the question carefully. It changes the answer. I hope you have done that..
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Saturday, 12 December 2009, 10:50 PM
 

well, in that case miss Nupur, it has been noticed that some questions were exactly the same as in the previous years and the answer options were in the SAME order as well. and of course, it can't change the answer.

and it's time for the smart or not-so-smart test taker to smile tongueout  and for the dumb one to keep quiet and either sulk or suffer, or may be stand up and speak out? your move, you decide who you want to be.


i have taken cat and my test went really well, and i am not in favour or a complete retest because it would be unfair for guys who have taken the test and are happy with their paper but at the same time the kind of rampant cheating and unfair test that it has been till now, the only ones to lose are the iim's because most other b-schools have already made other plans like having their own tests compulsorily and some IIMs have made it completely clear that the Percentile in CAT can carry a weightage as low as 50% in the total aggregate score.


also, the only only IIMs which are against a retest are IIM-A and IIM-L.

every other IIM has now come clean and wants a retest. i guess, some of you are not following the news well enough. Today, the pan-IIM teachers committee has decided to ask the directors of their respective IIMs to go for a retest as well. all major news paper and news channels have come out openly in protest of this year's cat and IIMs and Wikipedia acknowledges the same as well.


so will there be a retest? well, we don't know. given the choice i wouldn't but the question is SHOULD there be one and SHOULD, should be answered by taking your conscience into consideration in which case i would agree to it because of the unfairness involved.


on that note, some people on this forum seem to have extremely weak conscience and abjectly poor critical reasoning ability.


i want to quote my cousin here

"A clear Conscience, unfortunately, can't be fashioned out by passing difficult exams and studying in "great" or not-so-great institutions. Conscience has nothing to do with my or your alma mater-iimA,bc,l,i,k,s,X,Y,Z,stanford,harward,mit,hec,insead,kellog, in any way, if that were to be true we would never have had the economic crisis we recently had from new york". cousin's alma mater? insead.


one more thing and i am out. someone out here and i am quoting him "That is why IIMs are "India's Prestigious Institutes" ". one little question to him/her - are you blind or are you blind? There is a subtle and whisker of a difference between having faith and having blind faith. i sincerely hope you get that thin subtle line of difference before you make it to the corporate world.

hope there is no love lost between my opinions and the people reading them who are against the view.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sandip Sahoo - Sunday, 13 December 2009, 12:38 PM
 
Two IIMs favour pen and paper format


Somdatta Basu | TNN

Kolkata: Days after technical glitches threw the online CAT test out of gear at several centres across the country, two IIMS — Calcutta and Bangalore — have mooted a proposal to scrap the online exam and revert to a pen-and-paper test, at least for this year.
   Fed up with reports of disrupted exams, teachers and visiting professors at the two premier B-schools have adopted resolutions in their respective faculty council meetings on this and forwarded copies to the directors of these two IIMs.
   “Time is a constraint and it won’t be possible to conduct a smooth online test within a short period. We, thus, passed a resolution urging the directors and the CAT committee to arrange for a written examination at least for this year,” said an IIM-C faculty council member. The member pointed out that in 2003, the IIMs had arranged for a second written test after the CAT papers were leaked in several cities.
   Even as some IIMs brand this a panic reaction to a mere technical problem, faculty members of the two top IIMs feel the glitches have put CAT’s credibility at stake. “Feedback from centres bear out that many students taking the online tests did not get a level playing field because of system errors. Even the sanctity of the exam was not maintained,” said a faculty member from IIM-Bangalore. “Written test is thus the only alternative for this year till the online test system is made error free,” he added.
   The issue will come up in the CAT committee meeting on December 13, where advisory committee members and exectives will sit with the directors of seven IIMs before they take a call.
   According to IIM-Kozhikode director Debashish Chatterjee, the CAT committee has scanned the technical problems and categorised them. Chatterjee did not rule out the possibility of a retest which becomes aparent from the fact that a lot of students from Kolkata and elsewhere in the country have not been given a rescheduled date for taking the online CAT.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Monday, 14 December 2009, 12:44 PM
 

@ Mr. KAMONASISH,

Your claim :

"That is why IIMs are "India's Prestigious Institutes" ". one little question to him/her - are you blind or are you blind? There is a subtle and whisker of a difference between having faith and having blind faith.

My Claim:

IIMs are truely Perstigious. It is not just a blind faith. It is proven History.

I agree, anyone can make mistake and no one is exception from that. However, very few can realise those mistakes. IIMs are on the way of solving problems occured in conducting exam in all possible ways.

Giving up or abberating from problem and conducting retest is the not the only solution at this stage (Where no one has clear idea of what has happened). IIMs are analyzing the things properly just to get what has happened.

Soruce : Business Standards.

However, when contacted, one of the IIM directors said: “We are evaluating all our options at this juncture, as data is still to come. We will figure out if we have given everyone a fair chance. We are looking at all possible data regarding the examination.”

Faculty members that Business Standard spoke to at the IIMs said there was high possibility that the premier management institutes might go for a paper-pencil test. However, officials from other IIMs said they were identifying all the affected candidates, who would be given a fair chance. There has been video recording of 90,000 hours that the IIMs need to look at, from 361 labs at 104 centres.

 

To add, each and every activity(for every second) in exam can be logged. They can also analyse that howmuch time did we take in answering repeated questions from Previous questions or from the previous slots. This is part of general procedure while developing time based softwares.

After analyzing all possible options, they may conclude for retest. Even in that case also IIMs are prestigious institutions.. because they took decision based on analysis. Otherwise, anyone can go to court and fight there. IIMs dont take any risk falling behind without any proper reason. They can prove their goodness in court as well.

That is why IIMs are prestigious. Moreover, I hope this is what we call Critical Reasoning.

- Sreeni.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Monday, 14 December 2009, 03:34 PM
 

@ Mr. KAMONASISH,

my claim :"That is why IIMs are "India's Prestigious Institutes" ". one little question to him/her - are you blind or are you blind? There is a subtle and whisker of a difference between having faith and having blind faith."

Your Claim-Sreenivas Rao-:"IIMs are truely Perstigious. It is not just a blind faith. It is proven History".

My Reclaim (pun intended): "Truely" is Truly not a word.

moving forward.

104 test labs * 22 slots * 135 mins = 400950 mins (this is the amount of per min data in terms of minutes that was recorded, if we go further ahead and say they will be more meticulous then we are talking about 400950 * total number of cameras = a figure so huge that you and i can't foresee right now)
in some places the number of cameras was one, in some two, in some four +. by the way, all rooms of the sheer size had blind spots.
if we divide 400950 by 60 = 6683 hours which divided 24 = 279 days per person
a human works for 8 hours a day and not 24. i don't want to do junior level math anymore. makes my head spin.

"To add, each and every activity(for every second) in exam can be logged. They can also analyse that how much time did we take in answering repeated questions from Previous questions or from the previous slots. This is part of general procedure while developing time based softwares".

Not happening. why? this is not a test like GMAT (adaptive) where you have to answer a question before you can move onto the next one. so, since jumping and reviewing is allowed the amount of time spent on a question ha no value -simply put, i can know an answer and just click on an answer in 3 secs, if i solved it myself or if i have cheated. there is no way you can prove either correct or either wrong. in other words, me solving a problem an entire paper in 5 mins is not theoretically impossible and this is exactly why the data per question has no validation.
"Analyzing" time taken to answer previous slot questions or previous year questions is like saying that entire India cheated smile where as you might or might not have. so, since you might or might not have known about questions from previous years and/or questions from previous slots there is no way to normalize the procedure. in simpler words, you can't say every one knew about the fact that questions form previous years or previous slots came up in the examination and since you can't say that you also can't say no one knew about the same. you can't penalize a guy on basis of assumption. you need evidence. no evidence in the land of 1p/sec call rates and dynamic ip and futile cyber laws. so what happens? trapped. normalisation can't happen in a just manner in this scenario because all forms of normalisation depend on non-variability. simply put, more variables makes the equation of normalisation more difficult and makes it have more anomaly. to cut down on anomalies and non-variability you need to keep a check on variables-aka previous questions, repeated questions, system restarts, slots repeated questions, students getting extra time, students getting less time, answering not showing up, questions not showing up, graphs not showing up, etc etc etc. way more variables than equations = equation is unsolveable smile

by the way, all the reputed and big shot tutorials have leaked questions and have floated pdfs online and offline and have had  strategy classes. what a shame this cat has been.

like i said, love the iim's but also remember to be objective in life.
and the iim's you love 5 of them are now for a re-test. i am quoting Economic Times here dated 14th december 09 "It may be mentioned here while the directors of IIM-Ahmedabad and IIM-Bangalore are not in favour of scrapping the test, the heads of other five IIMs prefer a re-test. With doubts raised over the fairness of the test, there is a consensus among other IIMs (except IIM-A & B) that a re-test would silence all critics". so since 5 of your prestigious institutes + faculty of all iims (including a and b) are for a re-test, i guess you would be in favour of your "prestigious institutes" too, right? by the way-the prestigious institutes became prestigious because of its student body, the same can be lost when the student body intelligentsia is diluted.

(do i personally want a re-test? no, i don't smile but i also think the damage done this year is irreparable.)

on a separate note-
There were people claiming that problems with the online cat happened just on the first day. it recorded evidence that it happened till 8th day as well smile and it was obvious from the first day onwards because first day never had the most number of candidates taking the test, subsequent days had. there is another little statement that has been doing the rounds - most were rescheduled. "most"? how is that justice?
these are problems which are tip of the ice berg.

hi, nupur, would you mind answering this question - what happened to your 4 questions with no image in di? did you get a reply and your cat rescheduled as of yet? please call/email the guys and make sure you get a retest. if the number is busy then please try on and on until you get through, i hope you realise that its important smile also, what is your opinion about normalization in cases like yours. what do you think will be done? what if you would have had 10 questions with no data. what do you think would have been done in that case?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Monday, 14 December 2009, 04:21 PM
 

My Reclaim (pun intended): "Truely" is Truly not a word.

This statement clearly shows your way of thinking. You always try to find out the wrong things in others without having any clarity on your opinion.

You may be good at English but not at Maths. Instead of calculating time to be taken to monitor all videos, try to think for other options. Who said it is not possible to monitor all videos ? Remember there are claims on particular slots, cities, days. There are 8000 personnel have been deployed by Prometric for CAT CBT. Can't they do that? May be you dont have faith on them ? Why dont we check only the videos of affected parts of exam ?

Dont calculate in seconds (which gives you big number and you may feel it as difficult). Instead try to calculate in hours, days and resources. Try to use short cuts without compromising on accuracy.

Just for your info, every action( review, marking, unmarking etc) can be logged. Technology is improved boss..

The Economic Times says, in the same page, “The important thing is that, we now have the data. We will analyse it and then take a decision (on whether re-test would be held in the old format). It is too early to comment on anything else,” IIM-B director Pankaj Chandra told ET on Sunday.

They analyze the things and then take decision. That is why they are members are of India's Presigious Institutes. They take decision based on facts, not based on anyother (rumours, requests etc)

By the way,

What is your problem ?  Do you want IIMs to take immediate decision by listening you ? why are you opposing me when I call IIMs as Prestigious ? do you want me to agree whatever you say ?

(do i personally want a re-test? no, i don't smile but i also think the damage done this year is irreparable.)
Boss, you are also uncertain about the situation and that is why unable to make conclusion.

If you have any concerns post them to IIMs directly. Dont impose your opinions are on others.

- Sreeni.

 

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Monday, 14 December 2009, 04:32 PM
  bhai namastey. galtey ho gaye. i can see how much of facts you have stated smile which is why iim's are prestigious.

please give some space for other's opinion as well bhai.

no more comments sire.

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Kishore BV - Tuesday, 15 December 2009, 01:41 AM
 

http://totalgadha.com/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1952

If CAT is not a fair test then,how can it be fair now?

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Tuesday, 15 December 2009, 12:21 PM
  LAST NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF "PRESTIGIOUS" IIMs:

THE SELECTION CRITERIA FOR IIMs THIS YEAR is out

33% weightage to CAT scores smile

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/IIM-B-rolls-out-admission-process/articleshow/5338288.cms

since http links are not allowed on the forum, i am just giving the link. you can just this copy the link on to your browser address bar and clink enter smile
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Tuesday, 15 December 2009, 12:41 PM
  Hi Kamonashish,

I think these admission criteria are for IIM-B only. Other IIMs will have different weightages. Also, I believe this selection process is better. I have never liked so much stress on CAT score. I admire selection procedure of B-Schools abroad where top B Schools give chance to even candidates with low GMAT scores if the profiles of the candidates are good.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Tuesday, 15 December 2009, 01:08 PM
 

Experts are saying, ........... "because of many claims on technical gliches in CAT, IIMs may reduce stress on CAT score. They many call many students (may be a margin of) for GD ; IIMs are planning to show their tallent there."

No one object if they reject people in GD or PI smile smart thinking right ?

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Tuesday, 15 December 2009, 04:35 PM
  ( sir, i hope you don't mind me saying stuff on the forum. i just express my views and i stand to be corrected by you and dagny ma'am so please don't take things personally. for me its just like an intellectual debate and that's it smile )
sir, institutes outside also have work ex as a necessary criterion which is not the case here. also, their curriculum and cgpa is not a yearly or annual assessment but is a continuous assessment in practice which is farcry from the Indian education system and evaluation. there, things like sports, debating, painting, music, choir, dance etc are all taken directly into the cgpa which is not the case here. the evaluation and assessment process followed in in the developed nations are NOT based on rote learning skills. its a complete evaluation of who you are through out your career. Community Work (social service) is a necessary thing for most good b-schools, students at most iim-s (freshers) don't even have idea of what specilisation they will take until 6 months of their courses passes on :| also in most other countries, the standardisation is maintained via the fact that the boards are guided via national curriculum and administrative standards which is not the case for India. here in some states singing "twinkle twinkle" is banned (madhya pradesh).
 
India has 33 state boards and 196 universities (2002 figures)
how do you standardize in this scenario?

why is this all this important?
well, would you say a guy who is from a private university and has got 10.0 cgpa is better than a 5.someone from iit-delhi? smile

in my state, (you can verify this), cgpa of 10.0 is a real thing. my friend in a certain university here has got 10.0 cgpa last sem and another one has got 9.96. at the same time, pune university or DU toppers hardly dream about these figures. the state where i reside state also has provision (until recently) for 133% marks in 12th standard. my best friend's sister, who is in fms right now, had got 113 or 117 percent in her 12th from the state board. say this to a guy from west bengal board, and you will know what i mean to say.

also, by doing this 33% weightage thing - the iim's are prefectly admitting the huge failure that cat has been this year. may be its reasons like these why it took iim's 40 years to come to rank 72 and 78 on the times higher education supplement ranking. and after this year's fiasco, which i am sure the guys from FT,THES,BW,ECONOMIST will be following, the rankings are sure to drop.

by the way, here is the hypocrisy - the iim's which are against a retest (only iim-a iim-b director and administrative officers) are the only ones who are reducing weightage on cat scores anyway. all faculty members across all the iims and every other iim other than iim-a and iim-b are for a retest. infact iim-c seems to have put its foot down and is saying that it will not take this cat's score at all. i guess its time to name the Common Admission Test as UnCommon Admission Test. even Indian parliament sees less politics and in-fighting.

The Moot point is what are we comparing here? gmat vs cat? cat doesn't even come close. or are we talking about International Business Schools vs IIMs? again, farcry. there are just two ways to look at this - either comparing cauliflower with cement mixture (two different things can't be compared) or comparing two long distance runners for one of whom the other is an idol and ideal - the race never existed.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Tuesday, 15 December 2009, 05:18 PM
  Hi Kamonashish,

I think it's high time you stop arguing for the arguing sake and find something better to do. IIMs already have a weightage for work ex and extra curriculars can very well be gauged through the GD-PI form that you fill and during the interview. If Indian education system is different from the ones in abroad, the persons taking interviews are also aware of it. As for standardization of the boards result, the article that you posted has already mentioned the criterion- The candidates’ percentage scores in the 10th and 12th board exams will be adjusted by dividing each such score by the 90th percentile score obtained in that board.

As for the weightage thing, last year also there was a weightage on academic results, work ex etc. If the CAT weightage has decreased and some IIMs are admitting that they don't want to stress on CAT results, what's your problem?

All IIMs are independent bodies and they have their own set of selection rules. They will all try to find the best candidates for themselves. How they do it and how they use CAT results is their call, not yours.

Total Gadha
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Debdyuti Datta Gupta - Tuesday, 15 December 2009, 07:21 PM
 

Oh God!!!

This is becoming too much... let us wait till tomorrow (IIMs have a meeting with HRD). And we will also have a clear view whether there will be a retest or not.

Now please start concentrating on other entrances... We all may criticize IIMs to any extent but still it is our cherished dream to get into one of those IIMs...

All the best to all !!!

Regards

Debdyuti

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Total Gadha - Wednesday, 16 December 2009, 10:52 AM
  Hmm.. today we shall get to know if there is a retest or not. I hope they decide for a retest. Will end all speculations about the unfairness. 
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by avijit mohapatra - Wednesday, 16 December 2009, 03:00 PM
  Protests going on outside IIM Ahmedabad campus regarding scrapping of CAT 2009

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Debdyuti Datta Gupta - Wednesday, 16 December 2009, 03:24 PM
 

Oh...

Any update regarding the meeting between IIMs and HRD?

Regards

Debdyuti

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by saran singh - Wednesday, 16 December 2009, 05:19 PM
  Retest not happening......
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by deep sin - Wednesday, 16 December 2009, 05:25 PM
  Hi Saran,
Can you give me the source to verify?
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by kuldeep patel - Wednesday, 16 December 2009, 05:36 PM
  http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/newsalert-online-cat-not-to-be-scrapped-says-iim-b/81003/on
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Purnendu S - Wednesday, 16 December 2009, 08:27 PM
 

CAt is not going to be scrapped, say the IIMs .. so its final now ..

 

BTW Debdyuti , nice to see you here, we have met before I believe , on one of the Audits of your project smile

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Debdyuti Datta Gupta - Wednesday, 16 December 2009, 08:58 PM
 

Ok, then look forward to the other entrances and forget CAT, atleast till the result is declared ;)

@ Purnendu... Yes. So how was your CAT? will catch u over mail..

 

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Wednesday, 16 December 2009, 10:12 PM
 

interesting news

economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/services/education/SPAI-protest-against-CAT-demand-resignation-of-IIM-A-director/articleshow/5344919.cms

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Slim Shady - Thursday, 17 December 2009, 12:28 AM
  cud'n help but smile ...Mr.Mazumdar is an interesting fella!!
lol..
and yeah agree to that phrase which is ripped apart"IIMS....."
no offences!!
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Slim Shady - Thursday, 17 December 2009, 12:34 AM
  and one more thing" truely................."
this shows that u are smug @ your VA....
that was certainly not apreciated..wait..i guess i should'n park my nose in this ......
buddy this is India and there are many ppl who are VA xperts....
besides humility never harmed any 1..did it?


Thank You and Best of Luck
by KAMONASISH AAYUSH MAZUMDAR - Thursday, 17 December 2009, 01:39 PM
  All the very best to all the people on this forum.
i am sure that all of you guys will get all of your dreams fulfilled smile
This has been an amazing forum and it will continue to be so all through the years to come.
TG sir and Dagny ma'am have been great in imparting us the best of CAT education that they could have and i never thank them enough for what they have provided me with smile
Also, thanks to all the guys who promptly solved my doubts in the CAT CBT forums and to the amazing pre-cat discussion classes that TG sir had with us smile

May God be bless all of who have tried to achieve things in life.

bye.
Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by Sreenivas Rao - Thursday, 17 December 2009, 05:59 PM
 

ANNOUNCEMENT - December 17, 2009

The IIMs opted for computerized CAT 2009 to enhance the quality of test including providing a more conducive environment for testing as compared to paper and pencil test. It is indeed our regret that despite best efforts a number of candidates faced difficulties during this test window of Nov 28-Dec 8, 2009.

About 2.42 lakh candidates registered for CAT 2009. In the first administration window (i.e., from November 28th to Dec 8th, 2009) about 2.16 lakh candidates completed the test. About 10% of the total registered applicants (24,000) did not show up for the test - a percentage that is similar to what has been experienced in the past. The remaining 2000 candidates who were rescheduled remain to be tested.

A very large majority of candidates, over 2 lakhs, completed the test successfully. It is estimated that about 8,000 students may have faced difficulty of various kinds in completing the test. The various problems faced by these candidates have been categorized based on the emails received by the Candidate Care Centre of Prometric and by the IIMs, the telephone calls made by candidates at the Candidate Care Centre, the site and audit reports made by Prometric and NIIT personnel in charge of the labs at the test centre, problems and situations reported by the media, and discussions on blogs and websites. The categories of problems faced by candidates include premature exit due to inadvertent use of "End" button on the review screen in the first few days of testing period; disruptions caused due to malfunctioning of computers; missing graphics and data; and consequent rescheduling of test. Prometric has provided us with data from various sources mentioned above as well as select computer data on the candidates and some video footages. We have also received analysis of computer data identifying candidates who experienced any form of disruption/rebooting of their machine. This is helping us analyze the nature and extent of problems that the candidates faced and identify candidates who were genuinely affected by them.

There are, however, several claims that have been made about many problems and they require some reflection. For instance, the "End" button problem - it appears that barely 500 candidates faced this situation over the 11 day window. More importantly, once a candidate presses the "End" button, a message first appears on the screen which alerts a candidate that there are unanswered questions and asks whether the candidate really wants to exit (i.e., by pressing an "End" button one does not exit automatically). The cursor sits on the reply NO and the candidate has to move the cursor to YES and press it before he/she exits. Besides, from day 2 onwards, all candidate were being alerted through repeated announcements to be careful in using these buttons.

Similarly, video footage exists from every room and every test administration and is now being reviewed to identify labs that were affected, as claimed. It may be stated that the question sequence in any lab is also randomized. Consequently, any two candidates sitting on adjacent computers are most likely to be seeing very different questions at any given point of time. This reduces any chance of gaining from any form of cheating (which would also be identified through the video review).

Unlike testing on a single day (as CAT was in the past), whenever multiple day testing is undertaken, a large number of questions have to be developed with the same level of difficulty. This requires a different technology for generation of tests and establishing their equivalence. All the tests over this 11 day period were dissimilar while asking questions that test similar concepts. However, by design, the test included a few questions that were common in at most two tests. This is a standard practice followed by all tests that are offered over multiple days (including GRE, GMAT, TOEFL etc) to develop equivalence in terms of difficulty between two tests. It helps in making appropriate adjustments for varying difficulty levels thereby making the scores comparable across multiple days of testing. A few common situations may occur across different tests forms but key data has always been different in all and each situation was asking a different question or requiring a different analysis. These may have given an impression that questions have been repeated when that may not be true. This kind of testing process and its evaluation system which is common in other established tests such as GRE, GMAT, and TOEFL needs to be understood.

We would like to inform all the candidates that Prometric uses a robust encryption technology for uploading all the data that will not be affected by any virus. We have been assured that computer data on the test from all candidates have been successfully uploaded from all the labs.

The Directors of IIMs met on 13 December 2009 to take stock of the situation. Based on a detailed review, the directors decided to continue with computerized CAT 2009. This would be fair to a very large percentage (96%) of candidates who successfully completed the test. In addition, to be fair to those who experienced difficulties during the test, the directors decided to provide an opportunity to test in the second half of January 2010. On this testing date, candidates who remain to be tested and all those who, through a review process, are found to have been genuinely affected by various glitches during the first testing period will be asked to appear for the test. IIMs are in the process of setting up the criteria that will be used to identify candidates eligible for the test to be held in January. The candidates thus identified will be informed by Prometric in the coming weeks by email.

The IIMs would like to assure all concerned that through the above process fairness would have been achieved in the conduct of CAT 2009.

 

TG Sir/ Dagny Madam,

this is source from CAT official website... IIMs clearified almost all questions in a formal way...

I could not understand this line "A few common situations may occur across different tests forms but key data has always been different in all and each situation was asking a different question or requiring a different analysis. These may have given an impression that questions have been repeated when that may not be true. This kind of testing process and its evaluation system which is common in other established tests such as GRE, GMAT, and TOEFL needs to be understood. "

Can you please explain sir ?

Re: Share your CAT 2009 Experiences
by neha kapoor - Friday, 5 March 2010, 07:45 PM
 

hiii all i also took cat 2009 prepared for it one year bt shocked wid 82.73 %ile

now i dont want to go in any of the school i want now to work for ngo and simultaneously give one more year to cat so if a 2year dropout be ahuge problem even if i get a call.. do i hv no chance now.. plzzzzz reply a.s.a.p