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Challinging SC question. Pls reply..
by sim card - Tuesday, 13 October 2009, 12:06 PM
 

The Achaemenid empire of persia reached the indus valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and southern Indian alphabets.

the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and
the Aramaic script with it, and from which deriving both the northern and the
with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the
with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and
with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and

Re: Challinging SC question. Pls reply..
by sim card - Tuesday, 13 October 2009, 01:48 PM
 

Here is another one :Please give the explaination...

which ones better c or e and why...?

The federal rules aimed at protecting human subjects of medical experiments were established to ensure that the patients must be warned of potential risks and an independent pannel would evaluate the experiment before it was conducted.

must be warned of potential risks and an independent pannel would
must be warned of potential risks and that an independent pannel
are warned about potential risks and  that an independent pannel
will be warned about potential risks and independent pannel would
would be warned of potential risks and that an independent pannel would

Re: Challinging SC question. Pls reply..
by Takahiro Minagawa - Tuesday, 13 October 2009, 02:12 PM
  Hi,

For 2,

I think "e" is better, because "before it was conducted"  requires the past tense.

For 1,
could u be more specific on what do u want to know?
or totally no idea?

Taka
 


Re: Challinging SC question. Pls reply..
by sim card - Tuesday, 13 October 2009, 03:21 PM
 

Hi,

Thanks for the reply, but its still not that clear.

you mean would is used for past events and must can not be used for past tense. can u explain the usage of would and why it  is preferred in this case.

 

For the first one the answer is C but the statement 'from which derive both the northern and the'  sounds pretty awkward and does not easily connect with the rest of the sentence. Can you explain.

Re: Challinging SC question. Pls reply..
by Takahiro Minagawa - Tuesday, 13 October 2009, 04:57 PM
  Hi, again,. just quick reply for 2,

I do not mean "must" cannot be used for past tense.
i'm answering your original question: "which ones better c or e and why...?"
So what i mean is "would" in e can be used in past tense but "are" in c cannot.

In a and b, which are incorrect answers, there are other mistakes other than "must".

Taka
Re: Challinging SC question. Pls reply..
by Takahiro Minagawa - Tuesday, 13 October 2009, 05:00 PM
  Hi again,

For 1,


you have to grasp the meaning "who derives what?"

The most reasonable meaning here is
1) "someone(not stated in the sentence) derives both the northern and the southern Indian alphabets from the Aramaic script."

or using passive voice without changing the meaning, you can say

2) "both the northern and the southern Indian alphabets are derived from the Aramaic script"

or considering "derive" can be used as an intransitive verb, you can also say

3) "both the northern and the southern Indian alphabets derive from the Aramaic."

But 1) is not suitable here (because the person=subject is not stated)
Thus, there are 2 possible correct sentences.

If you use 3), you can say

The Achaemenid empire of persia reached the indus valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing with it the Aramaic script.
and
both the northern and the southern Indian alphabets derive from the Aramaic.

connecting these 2 by replacing "the Aramaic script" with "which",

=>The Achaemenid empire of persia reached the indus valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing with it the Aramaic script, both the northern and the southern Indian alphabets derive from which.

But the sentence is awkward, because it is difficult to identify the antecedent of which; the Aramatic script, the antecedent is placed far from "which".
thus change the word order so that the antecedent(=the Aramic) is placed closer to "which", by changing the sentence to "an inverted sentence".(the subject-verb is inverted to verb-subject).

=>The Achaemenid empire of persia reached the indus valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the southern Indian alphabets.

BTW, similar modification with 2) is also possible,
but it is not preferable because of the passive voice.

Taka


Re: Challinging SC question. Pls reply..
by sim card - Tuesday, 13 October 2009, 11:27 PM
 

Hi Taka

Thanks for the above explaination. It really cleard my doubt..

thanks again...

Re: Challinging SC question. Pls reply..
by Totaly Gadha - Wednesday, 14 October 2009, 10:29 PM
  Question one has no correct answer, but if i have to choose the best choice i would go for 1 itself.

2nd one is a lollypop, the conjunction and is used with like sentences
e.g you and I; He and she; to start sth and to seek sth;
on similar logic Last sentence is the best choice !!
Would
Re: Challinging SC question. Pls reply..
by pankaj eklarkar - Sunday, 31 January 2010, 05:08 PM
  1 -> 'from which ...' modifies Aramaic script and not the the empire, isnt 3rd choice a better than 1st? can you please clarify?
Re: Challinging SC question. Pls reply..
by Manu Pathania - Wednesday, 3 February 2010, 02:12 PM
 

Hi,

 For the 1st ques, option C seems to settle better than any other options.

Reasons:

1. It is clearly a modifier error. Here, 'which' should refer 'Aramaic script' and this is properly presented in option C.

2. Now, comparing last three options. C is preferred because of the subject - verb agreement error in other option. C uses derive (plural verb) for both the northern and southern (plural subject), which is correct. Derives is singular and cannot refer to plural subject.

Thanks,

Manu